Quote Originally Posted by Alysser View Post
Ah, okay. Maybe for regular walks, but I would never use a prong collar on a trail. I'll never use anything but a harness, it prevents escape much easier. Plus I tried that with a british training lead, which acts like a prong collar, tightens if they pull but doesn't pinch. He literally choked himself...
Yes, some dogs just don't get that pulling is causing that horrible choking feeling ... it's like there's a disconnect there in their brains. The sheltie I used to walk would literally choke himself on his collar once he knew we were heading back to office, unless I said "Heel" every 30 seconds or so to remind him not to. It must have amused passersby, but I didn't want him damaging his trachea. He was not my own dog, by the way,so any training I did with him all disappeared as soon as his actual mom or dad got back and took back over his care, they just were not consistent with him.

Alysser, have you tried a clicker or even make some clicking noise yourself to get him to stop barking?