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    Just barrier training. Do a lot of recalls, but allow them to be released once you've called them back to you (giving a treat is reinforcement, but the really good reinforcement is letting them go back to what they are doing) I do a lot of this at dog parks. Jackpot reinforcements for whenever they voluntarily come up to you. Being able to call your dog off anything they chase is also what helps. My dogs tend to check in with me if they get about 20-30 feet away.

    It also helps to begin letting your dog have freedom, a long line can help. A very thin one so it feels like they are off leash but you are still able to have control over them. Being off leash can't be a novelty to them or they will take advantage of it every time. My two have been off leash a lot since I got them as puppies. You should also graduate to letting them drag the long line so you can at least step on it if you see them begin to get too far away.

    Some breeds will definitely have a harder time with it, but my good friend has ibizan hounds (sighthounds) and they do amazingly well off leash. Some of the best dogs I've seen. She is able to recall them off anything they begin to chase. It takes a LOT of dedication and a LOT of training. But she has it and she did it.

    Just googled it quickly and found this article. I generally like her advice in it.

    http://dogtrainer.quickanddirtytips....d-rewards.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    But Gracie, our Great Dane, had no such notions, and if she managed to sneak past us without us snagging a collar to put her on her chain, she'd fly off, and pause once at the crest of the hill in the neighbor's yard to say "Ha!" and off she'd go! Thankfully, she stuck to the woods, not the roads, and always came back safely. It really varies dog to dog.
    HAHAHA! Oh Karen I can just picture that.



    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Sight hounds are probably amongst the toughest to train on this - just my opinion, lol.

    My Lacey will stay by me, and I can take her just about anywhere off leash. Do I walk her around the neighborhood off leash? No way, the risks, with cars etc are much too high. But in a bank, in Home Depot, she is fine. No chance of a passing squirrel, either! LOL

    So on the beach? I could leave her off leash, she would stay close by and always be sure she knows where I am. Again, safety wise, that would be a nice place for her to be off leash.

    Growing up, our third dog, Sammy, was a shepherd / collie rescue, and she was much as Karen's dane, off to the next county with a quick glance over the shoulder! LOL

    So a lot of it is the dog; some of it is the breed; and you always always need to consider safety.
    You take her in Home Depot? THAT'S AWESOME!

    My greyhound Taffy? She managed to have me so relaxed at the lead once, since she walks so nice on it, that it dropped out of my hand- AND SHE WAS OFF! She thought it would be fun to scare the living daylights out of me by running ahead and PLAYBOWING, wagging her tail all the while as I grabbed for her leash!


    Quote Originally Posted by MonicanHonda View Post
    Just barrier training. Do a lot of recalls, but allow them to be released once you've called them back to you (giving a treat is reinforcement, but the really good reinforcement is letting them go back to what they are doing) I do a lot of this at dog parks. My two have been off leash a lot since I got them as puppies.

    Some breeds will definitely have a harder time with it, but my good friend has ibizan hounds (sighthounds) and they do amazingly well off leash. Some of the best dogs I've seen. She is able to recall them off anything they begin to chase. It takes a LOT of dedication and a LOT of training. But she has it and she did it.

    Just googled it quickly and found this article. I generally like her advice in it.

    http://dogtrainer.quickanddirtytips....d-rewards.aspx
    Reinforcement all the way! Oh Ibizans are gorgeous creatures, that's cool that she's able to do that! For a lot of the greys, they have lure training on the track for years. There are some owners who have gotten theirs off lead though! I like that article you provided a lot, thanks for sharing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Taz_Zoee View Post
    I can't even let Zoee out the front door anymore without a leash. She has become a darter and will run around the block. Luckily she runs the opposite direction of the busy street we live near. But this is the only direction I ever take them out of the court....thank goodness.
    That's enough to give you a heart attack! Mine are also darters.
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    Well, Lily just kind of naturally does her own thing and doesn't stray too far from my mom and I. We used to take her to an empty baseball field that was fenced in and I would tell her to "stay" and she would until I called her .

    On the other hand, my RB Roxy was definitely not capable of being off leash. The moment she escaped, she'd run from me and think I was playing with her. She was very difficult to catch. As she got a little older though, she was a bit easier to deal with when she slipped out of her collar.
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    I wouldn't DARE to let either of my Yorkies off the leash...ANYWHERE save for in the confines of the yard or house.

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    Neither Smokey nor Maggie can be trusted off leash outside in an unfenced
    area. I do practice "stays" inside a lot. Have them do stay in one room while
    I go into another. It's good practice to obey the "stay" command, especially
    in the car, It allows me to get out first without them both jumping out before
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    Even at her now rather advanced age I can't trust Lady off leash. We haven't been able to do anything of the sort from the time she adopted us. She'd get a scent and be gone until she got hungry or tired.

    Karen's mention of Gracie made me laugh. That dog was 3/4 of my cross country training. She'd get out and be gone, and she'd just stop long enough to tease me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Even at her now rather advanced age I can't trust Lady off leash. We haven't been able to do anything of the sort from the time she adopted us. She'd get a scent and be gone until she got hungry or tired.

    Karen's mention of Gracie made me laugh. That dog was 3/4 of my cross country training. She'd get out and be gone, and she'd just stop long enough to tease me.
    And she was so darned sleek if you didn't snag her collar, as hard as you tried to grab hold of any other part, she's just slide right through our grip!

    How fast was Gracie? She was once spotted running next to a wild rabbit, which was so scared, it was running straight, didn't have the time to even do the traditional bunny zig-zag! The poor rabbit had no idea Gracie thought bunnies were her friends, and had no concept of eating it!
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