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    Pres. Reagan had to work with a much more divided house (The closest division was a 50 seat deficit) and still accomplished much of his agenda.

    Agree with his policies or not, the amount a true leader can accomplish is staggering, even if Congress is against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Pres. Reagan had to work with a much more divided house (The closest division was a 50 seat deficit) and still accomplished much of his agenda.

    Agree with his policies or not, the amount a true leader can accomplish is staggering, even if Congress is against them.

    Reagan never met the wing nuts of the Tea Party. He never was asked
    to show his birth certificate. He was never questioned about his love for
    America. Obama ,as the first African American President had to face blatent
    prejudice never before experienced by a major political candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Reagan never met the wing nuts of the Tea Party. He never was asked
    to show his birth certificate. He was never questioned about his love for
    America. Obama ,as the first African American President had to face blatent
    prejudice never before experienced by a major political candidate.
    Thank you for proving how utterly ignorant and, a factor that is worse IMO, dogmatic you really are. And you accuse those who hold a different opinion of the exact same thing....


    Lets put it in language you might understand Liz. Barack Obama's domestic/economic policy is the same as George Bush... on steroids. No? Please elaborate on the differences.

    EDIT - Hint <Be sure to consider which party controlled Congress at the time certain variables were put into play. It would be neat to see if you understand how that matters.>
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    Every President has to deal with name calling and opposition from both the fringes of their own party and the entire opposition party.

    Pres. Reagan was derided as senile, a lightweight, an Actor with no background, ad nauseum. He still accomplished much of the agenda he ran on despite his detractors and taking office during a massive recession.

    Pres. Clinton was derided as a hick from Arkansas, his presidency was rife with scandal, and he still accomplished much (love it or hate it) on the legislative side.

    The first President Bush never got out of the shadow of Reagan, and was an appeaser, never showed a backbone on domestic policy, and didn't communicate well.(read my lips.......)

    The second President Bush ran as a conservative initially, had a strong foreign policy (love it or hate it, you knew where he stood) but domestically he tried to be everything to everyone, from No Child Left Behind to the medicare prescription drug benefit disaster. We will pay dearly for both of those.

    When Presidents LEAD, they do well. When they appease or go to childish bullying, they do poorly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Obama ,as the first African American President had to face blatent prejudice never before experienced by a major political candidate.
    If you mean people voted for him because he is half African American, you would be correct.
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    Now we know the complete story!


    The English language has some wonderfully collective nouns for the various groups of animals.

    We are all familiar with a Herd of cows, a Flock of chickens, a School of fish and a Gaggle of geese.

    However, less widely known is a Pride of lions, a Murder of crows (as well as their cousins the rooks and ravens), an Exaltation of doves and, presumably because they look so wise, a Parliament of owls.

    Now consider a group of Baboons. They are the loudest, most dangerous, most obnoxious, most viciously aggressive and least intelligent of all primates.
    And what is the proper collective noun for a group of baboons?

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    Don't insult baboons. At least they have a purpose to their....displays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    If you mean people voted for him because he is half African American, you would be correct.
    I am sure there are also people who didn't vote for him for the same reason. Neither position makes much sense, but humans are not always as rational as they could be!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    I am sure there are also people who didn't vote for him for the same reason. Neither position makes much sense, but humans are not always as rational as they could be!
    That was the point Liz was trying to make.

    If you voted for someone because of their race its just as raciest as if you voted against them because of their race.
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    I remember seeing a poll that women voted for Clinton because he resembled Robert Redford.

    But of course voting for someone because they are black is good, and voting against the same person is bad, is a perfectly rational argument.
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