Politics and religion.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 07-05-2011, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Bonny

Was that the Romans by chance?????????????? They got lazy & fell from within.

Athens is in Greece and a two second Google search would have shown the OP that the quote is gobbly-gook. Check here.

**blue** · 07-05-2011, 02:54 PM

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage."

**wombat2u2004** · 07-05-2011, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by blue

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage."

In a nutshell mate

History has shown us this.

**blue** · 07-05-2011, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

In a nutshell mate

History has shown us this.

Im sure a certain Know It All will have a Google search and a Snopes link to prove us wrong mate.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 07-05-2011, 05:30 PM

The good news is the United States is not a democracy (it is a republic for those who don't remember their Pledge of Allegiance) so we need not worry about the hoax quoted above.

There now maties...feel better?

Jewish rabbis stoning dogs, descriptions of the demise of democracies after 200 years....make believe garbage...what's next? Quotes from Nostradamus...

Can't we do a little fact checking maties??

**blue** · 07-05-2011, 06:06 PM

Thanks for not letting us down ES.
Hey Wom.

Did either of us claim the USA was a Democracy? I just checked our previous posts and saw no mention of the USA being a democracy in any of them.

On the other hand the current POTUS does think we live in a democracy and that may give some credibility to our quotes above.

Have a good one mate.

**RICHARD** · 07-05-2011, 06:33 PM

I am not apathetic, I just don't care.

**wombat2u2004** · 07-05-2011, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by blue

Thanks for not letting us down ES.
Hey Wom.

Did either of us claim the USA was a Democracy? I just checked our previous posts and saw no mention of the USA being a democracy in any of them.

On the other hand the current POTUS does think we live in a democracy and that may give some credibility to our quotes above.

Have a good one mate.

Well blue old mate. Here's some facts.
The only country mentioned in my post was Greece. There was no mention at all about the USA or any other country for that matter. Perhaps our "Fly On The Wall" believes I am having a shot at the tiny little world she exists in.

Secondly, the post made no mention of republics, it was purely and simply a quote written about a democracy. Altho, if our fly on the wall knew anything else other than where Paul Revere bought his horse, then perhaps she would understand the truth in that post regarding rise and fall of nations.

Thirdly, no one knows WHO wrote that quote. Just because someone at Snopes says it wasn't Tytler means nothing to me. That's HIS opinion. My opinion is that Tytler did write it, and Tytler was VERY accurate. It's not the quote that was questioned by Snopes, it was who wrote the quote.

So if our fly on the wall believes Snopes, then so be it. But we will allow her to tell us WHO wrote the quote.... I mean....she knows everything...right ???