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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Concord Hymn The poem's phrase "shot heard round the world" is now internationally famous for its description of the philosphical importance of the American revolution.
    It is ???
    Never heard of it.
    Now why would the American Revolution interest anyone who isn't American ???


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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    It is ???
    Never heard of it.
    Now why would the American Revolution interest anyone who isn't American ???
    Dont you collect war medals?
    I have a HUGE SIG!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Dont you collect war medals?
    I do mate. But not from that war.
    I have a good USA Vietnam collection tho.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    It is ???
    Never heard of it.
    Now why would the American Revolution interest anyone who isn't American ???
    Just like we, as children in America, studied the wars in other countries, children not growing up in America may learn the story of the American Revolution. And that Revolution, though it had been brewing, and had many causes, had its first shots fired a few miles from where I sit typing this. So just as I learned that Archduke Ferdinand getting shot when his driver backed down an alley in Sarajevo started World War I, children in other countries may have been taught about the beginnings of the war at Lexington and Concord.

    Does not world history interest everyone to some extent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    She isnt already?

    ETA: And Wom drop the ... ... ... between thoughts it doesnt make you look smarter, it makes you look like a teenager or a grey haired old lady trying to look smart.
    Dunno mate. Maybe she's still at the purple haired stage of life
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Just like we, as children in America, studied the wars in other countries, children not growing up in America may learn the story of the American Revolution. And that Revolution, though it had been brewing, and had many causes, had its first shots fired a few miles from where I sit typing this. So just as I learned that Archduke Ferdinand getting shot when his driver backed down an alley in Sarajevo started World War I, children in other countries may have been taught about the beginnings of the war at Lexington and Concord.

    Does not world history interest everyone to some extent?
    Hmmmmm....we didn't do American history at all. We did a lot on the English Revolution, but mostly either ancient history and Australian history.
    But yeah, I am a history buff from way back, and if I do know anything about American History it's because I have picked up books and read about it.
    But I have found world history interesting for my own enjoyment. Most people don't. If one asks me if I find American history in any way special or spectacular, I'd say no, even after visiting some of your battle parks.
    Pretty ordinary stuff in my opinion. But I'm Australian, and I think our history is more colourful, as you believe that yours is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    It is ???
    Never heard of it.
    Now why would the American Revolution interest anyone who isn't American ???
    At last you have said something funny!

    Now that you have admitted you are not familiar with it -how about shutting up about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post

    Now that you have admitted you are not familiar with it -how about shutting up about it?

    They say the most that know the least, ie Palin,Bachmann, Beck, et al.

    Isn't it wonderful to be a American and have foreigners tell you what our
    Politics are all about? Hey, they even know our History...they read a book
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Isn't it wonderful to be a American and have foreigners tell you what our
    Politics are all about? Hey, they even know our History...they read a book
    somewhere.

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    That whole thing in Wisconsin in on hold for the moment. Judge Maryann Sumi of the Dane County Circuit Court, appointed by Republican Governor Tommy Thompson in 1998, has issued a temporary restraining order that prevents the law from taking effect.

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    The Arizona Senate rejected five immigration bills that were intended to force the US Supreme Court to resolve the issue of citizenship for the children of non-citizens who are born in the U.S. among other immigration issues.

    Seems the Republicans were a bit divided ...

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    The Senate also defeated a bill to require hospitals to contact federal immigration officials or local law enforcement if people being treated lack insurance and can't demonstrate legal status.
    The above quote is from the Fox News link Edwina's Secretary posted. I just found out that in Illinois, hospitals have the option, but are not required to contact the consulate or embassy of a patient's country of origin if the patient lacks insurance and is unable to demonstrate legal status. Or even if they can demonstrate legal status.

    We have had some difficult situations at work recently where a patient is the citizen of another country and has significant health care needs (chemotherapy, intravenous nutrition, rehabilitative care, ongoing care for a high-risk pregnancy and I could go on and on). One was a lady in her 70s from a Middle Eastern country here visiting her adult child, who is a U.S. citizen. She came to the emergency department with complaints that could have been related to any number of problems, and sadly was given a life-changing diagnosis. She was here legally and while visiting her family, needed medical care. Others are not here legally and that poses another whole set of issues. Sometimes there is not much the embassy can do, but I just think they should be told. And contacting ICE, well, that just seems overly harsh to me. I don't think they can do much either.

    Question: If my American husband and I are living in another country temporarily - and we have a child while we live there - is the child automatically a citizen of that country? Does the birthright citizenship scenario apply to countries other than the U.S.?

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