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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    This is what really sticks in my craw. They are bound and determined to build that Mosque there no matter who it hurts but they expect everyone to be sensitive to their being upset at the burning of the Quran. I still think if you are still doing something that you know will hurt others, it's wrong. They are wrong to build that Mosque there since it hurts so many and that pastor is wrong to burn their Holy book. Both sides need some sensitivity training.

    Moff, I agree with you. Does anybody think our soldiers are going to be
    treated any better if there is no Koran burning? I think too much has been
    made about how this will affect us or them.
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    There's already been one death in Afghanistan during demonstrations related to this. That's just one of probably many more that this God-fearing Christian pastor in FL can carry on his shoulders. What in the world is he trying to prove??? Enough already! This jerk isn't going to change any minds. If they want to build the mosque near ground zero, his actions are not going to stop it. If anything - it will probably make all involved just more determined. My opinion of course..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Moff, I agree with you. Does anybody think our soldiers are going to be
    treated any better if there is no Koran burning? I think too much has been
    made about how this will affect us or them.
    This is going to be a counterinsurgency , Psyops and specops nightmare.
    Point blank.

    There are moderate muslims on the fence and supporting the US who will easily be pushed over to the side of the Taliban.

    THanks, Rev.

    I have a hard time seeing how this act falls anywhere under Christ's interpretation of the law.
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    Cliff notes.

    Mosques have specific architectural rules in the Muslim world. The "Ground Zero Mosque" does not follow those rules. The proposed building would historically be a "Rabat", structures built in enemy territory and used for resting troops as well as training for further raids into enemy territory.

    Islam center's eerie echo of ancient terror

    By AMIR TAHERI

    Last Updated: 8:35 AM, September 10, 2010

    Posted: 5:34 AM, September 10, 2010

    Should there be a mosque near Ground Zero? In fact, what is pro posed is not a mosque -- nor even an "Islamic cultural center."

    In Islam, every structure linked to the faith and its rituals has a precise function and character. A mosque is a one-story gallery built around an atrium with a mihrab (a niche pointing to Mecca) and one, or in the case of Shiites two, minarets.

    Other Islamic structures, such as harams, zawiyyahs, husseinyiahs and takiyahs, also obey strict architectural rules. Yet the building used for spreading the faith is known as Dar al-Tabligh, or House of Proselytizing.

    This 13-story multifunctional structure couldn't be any of the above.

    The groups fighting for the project know this; this is why they sometimes call it an Islamic cultural center. But there is no such thing as an Islamic culture.

    Islam is a religion, not a culture. Each of the 57 Muslim-majority nations has its own distinct culture -- and the Bengali culture has little in common with the Nigerian. Then, too, most of those countries have their own cultural offices in the US, especially in New York.

    Islam is an ingredient in dozens of cultures, not a culture on its own.

    In theory, at least, the culture of American Muslims should be American. Of course, this being America, each ethnic community has its distinct cultural memories -- the Iranians in Los Angeles are different from the Arabs in Dearborn.

    In fact, the proposed structure is known in Islamic history as a rabat -- literally a connector. The first rabat appeared at the time of the Prophet.

    The Prophet imposed his rule on parts of Arabia through a series of ghazvas, or razzias (the origin of the English word "raid"). The ghazva was designed to terrorize the infidels, convince them that their civilization was doomed and force them to submit to Islamic rule. Those who participated in the ghazva were known as the ghazis, or raiders.

    After each ghazva, the Prophet ordered the creation of a rabat -- or a point of contact at the heart of the infidel territory raided. The rabat consisted of an area for prayer, a section for the raiders to eat and rest and facilities to train and prepare for future razzias. Later Muslim rulers used the tactic of ghazva to conquer territory in the Persian and Byzantine empires. After each raid, they built a rabat to prepare for the next razzia.

    It is no coincidence that Islamists routinely use the term ghazva to describe the 9/11 attacks against New York and Washington. The terrorists who carried out the attack are referred to as ghazis or shahids (martyrs).

    Thus, building a rabat close to Ground Zero would be in accordance with a tradition started by the Prophet. To all those who believe and hope that the 9/11 ghazva would lead to the destruction of the American "Great Satan," this would be of great symbolic value.

    Faced with the anger of New Yorkers, the promoters of the project have started calling it the Cordoba House, echoing President Obama's assertion that it would be used to propagate "moderate" Islam.

    The argument is that Cordoba, in southern Spain, was a city where followers of Islam, Christianity and Judaism lived together in peace and produced literature and philosophy.

    In fact, Cordoba's history is full of stories of oppression and massacre, prompted by religious fanaticism. It is true that the Muslim rulers of Cordoba didn't force their Christian and Jewish subjects to accept Islam. However, non-Muslims could keep their faith and enjoy state protection only as dhimmis (bonded ones) by paying a poll tax in a system of religious apartheid.

    If whatever peace and harmony that is supposed to have existed in Cordoba were the fruit of "Muslim rule," the subtext is that the United States would enjoy similar peace and harmony under Islamic rule.

    A rabat in the heart of Manhattan would be of great symbolic value to those who want a high-profile, "in your face" projection of Islam in the infidel West.

    This thirst for visibility is translated into increasingly provocative forms of hijab, notably the niqab (mask) and the burqa. The same quest mobilized hundreds of Muslims in Paris the other day to close a whole street so that they could have a Ramadan prayer in the middle of the rush hour.

    One of those taking part in the demonstration told French radio that the aim was to "show we are here." "You used to be in our capitals for centuries," he said. "Now, it is our turn to be in the heart of your cities."

    Before deciding whether to support or oppose the "Cordoba" project, New Yorkers should consider what it is that they would be buying.
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    Is it true in Islam the family comes first, then the tribes, & then the country? I was told by a person that served in the military in Iraq that Islam is the religion & no culture goes with it. He said that there are now states in Iraq that have been set up. The tribes fight amongst each other so there is unrest inside the Islam religion itself.

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    Which Rally To Attend ?

    Oh gosh, don't tell me I have to chose just one. I want to go to both.


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    The motto of the United States Military Academy (West Point) is Duty, Honor, Country.

    Joe Miller, Senate candidate in Alaska, is a West Point grad.

    The release of documents late Tuesday showing that Republican Senate nominee Joe Miller of Alaska lied about his misconduct while serving as a government attorney in Fairbanks delivered yet another blow to a tea party-backed candidate who was considered a shoo-in just two months ago, when he defeated incumbent Lisa Murkowski in the GOP primary.

    The revelations, reported by the Associated Press and the Web site Alaska Dispatch based on public documents that a judge ordered released on Tuesday, show that Miller was caught using colleagues' computers for political business and that he lied about it repeatedly before admitting the wrongdoing. Miller was conducting his own poll in an effort to oust a state GOP chairman, and he used his colleagues' computers to vote in the poll, then erased their computers' caches to hide what he did.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    The motto of the United States Military Academy (West Point) is Duty, Honor, Country.
    Joe Miller, Senate candidate in Alaska, is a West Point grad.
    So was Custer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    The motto of the United States Military Academy (West Point) is Duty, Honor, Country.

    Joe Miller, Senate candidate in Alaska, is a West Point grad.






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    I didnt see, in the Democratic Political Ad... sorry news article, any mention of Joe Miller's offer to resign or any mention that the resignation was refused. Nor did I see any mention that the poll was non binding and that Mr Miller was testing the web site that was hosting the poll.
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