Stoned to death

[Lady's Human]

The Burqa predates Mohammed by hundreds if not thousands of years. It was adopted by Islam, not created for Islam.

[Lady's Human]

By the way, nice comparison that really shows how much respect there is for women in your culture, Sana.

A gem is an inanimate object put on display.

My wife is an intelligent being, with her own thoughts and motivations.

I don't worry about someone wanting to steal her, because we trust each other. I can understand the Burqa in a culture where men are not expected to show any self control, but this is the 21st century, not the 6th.

[sana]

By the way, nice comparison that really shows how much respect there is for women in your culture, Sana.

A gem is an inanimate object put on display.

My wife is an intelligent being, with her own thoughts and motivations.

I don't worry about someone wanting to steal her, because we trust each other. I can understand the Burqa in a culture where men are not expected to show any self control, but this is the 21st century, not the 6th.

Hey, women in Islam don't mind wearing this Burqa and as God says, Islam will never end. That is why many women don't leave Burqa because they knoe that the Last Prophet told them to wear Burqa cover their bodies and men are to wear clothes which are above the ankles and below the knees. Men have certain types of clothes to wear too. Not only women. I am a girl so I mostly know about girls dresses. I know some stuff about men's clothes. The ankle above pants and knee below and that they shouldn't wear silk. That's a little I know.

[Lady's Human]

WOmen in Islam don't mind wearing Burqas?

Then why, praytell, all the uproar in Saudi Arabia when US forces were stationed there? Part of it was Saudi women complaining that they should be able to dress as they wanted.

It's not freewill when the penalty for not wearing a Burqa is caning, stoning, or some other Sharia law penalty.

Again, it's the 21st century, not the 6th. Time to move on past barbarism.

[Miss Z]

It is a little unfair, I think, to point so much at Islam for advising women to cover their bodies, when many other cultures do the same. We don't have so much problem with the Amish, for example. They too are also advised to dress modestly from text lifted directly from the Bible.

[sana]

And by the way when do Christian nuns wear that head stuff. You can't see their hair can you so wombat you don't need to be so picky in a religion that you don't even believe in. Just do your own religion stuff. And to give you a point. If you are a Jew then you should know that many of you ancestors were punished by God after many mercies. God forgave them and forgave them then he punished them. Then the next generation had the same thing happened with them. And if you are a Christian then you should know that your priests don't even know the proper meaning and rules of Trinity. If you ever ask then they'll say something like child God knows because they don't know what it means and so they will try to make a fool out of you and tell you something like Jesus was a holy man and stuff. They don't know what Trinity is! OMG! Meaning you should know your religion.

[sana]

WOmen in Islam don't mind wearing Burqas?

Then why, praytell, all the uproar in Saudi Arabia when US forces were stationed there? Part of it was Saudi women complaining that they should be able to dress as they wanted.

It's not freewill when the penalty for not wearing a Burqa is caning, stoning, or some other Sharia law penalty.

Again, it's the 21st century, not the 6th. Time to move on past barbarism.

Listen, those women aren't even proper muslims! I bet they hear music behind other muslims backs. And this culture is not barbarism. We loved Muhammad and its best you tried to look at the flaws of your own religion. Read my last post and you'll see what is wrong in your religion. Its known worldwide. Read it and stop talking about the flaws (there is no flaw in Islam and these are flaws you think but we don't because we know our religion) of Islam. Islam is flawless. And I don't care what you think of it. I think my religion is the greatest and it will never perish I can promise you that!

[RICHARD]

Nuns wear a habit by choice.

Some orders even allow nuns to wear regular clothes.

I have never heard of a nun being beat for not wearing a habit.

[sana]

And those who beat girls for wearing Western dresses are right because if the girl is a Muslim she has to act like one. And so she should wear Islamic dresses.

[Lady's Human]

Yeah, but I've heard of Nuns being beaten for having bad habits.......


Okay, bad attempt at a pun.


Sana, the pastors I've spoken to are very straightforward on the meaning of the trinity, however, as Islam makes a left turn from the Judeo-Christian bible I can understand where your differences lie.

On another point, you've now established that Iraqis are traitors to Islam, Saudis aren't proper Muslims.........Who is? Surely it's not the Pakistani government who sponsor Muslim on Muslim violence through the ISI..........

[pomtzu]

Alright, she's got some education ahead of her. Perhaps, then, she ought to be allowed to learn, rather than slandered by much older members on a topic that is far more close to her heart than it is to that of anyone else here.

As adult members, I did hope that we were still a little more forgiving with our younger members.

It's because of comments as those posted below, that she is alienating herself here. There are flaws in all religions, and for her to think hers is perfect, and the only one that is, is rather opinionated, don't you think?? It appears that she is the only one talking trash. Chalk it up to her age and immaturity if you will, but she seems to be heading down a path that will only continue to reinforce and strengthen her beliefs that she has now. She obviously has no intention of being open-minded. She is right, and the world's all wrong.

And this culture is not barbarism. We loved Muhammad and its best you tried to look at the flaws of your own religion. Read my last post and you'll see what is wrong in your religion. Its known worldwide. Read it and stop talking about the flaws (there is no flaw in Islam and these are flaws you think but we don't because we know our religion) of Islam. Islam is flawless. And I don't care what you think of it. I think my religion is the greatest and it will never perish I can promise you that!

[Karen]

Remember, folks, it is better to try to gently educate than attack. Sana, this goes for you as well as everyone else. Do not think that your opinion is the only one that exists and push everyone else away. We are all here because we love pets, that is the one thing we have in common. We may disagree on matters of politics or religion, but here on Pet Talk, we ask that everyone try to be respectful of others.

Just think, if you were in a busy place, and there was someone yelling her opinion at the top of her or his lungs, would you try to listen to that person? No, you'd like get annoyed and walk away. But if someone approaches nicely, a conversation is much more likely.

[Miss Z]

It's because of comments as those posted below, that she is alienating herself here. There are flaws in all religions, and for her to think hers is perfect, and the only one that is, is rather opinionated, don't you think??

Agreed in every sense.

If however that were to be the 'path' she's heading down, then I don't believe certain comments made by some members here are going to do much to make her think twice about it. She'll become more hardened to an American/Western/whatever way of thinking than ever.

If she is to be expected to bite her lip, I think it is courteous to expect others do the same for her.

She obviously has no intention of being open-minded. She is right, and the world's all wrong.

That attitude is most definitely not unique to her!! PARTICULARLY in the Dog House.

Half the world is plagued by that line of thinking. 'Tis why we fall out so much.

Thanks for explaining your views, anyways. I think sana may be able to take something constructive from civilised debate.