Rex Murphy: Testing America’s tolerance

[Karen]

That is my opinion, based on Popcornbird, several other people I know both in person and online, and any women in headscarves I have ever had a chance to talk to.

Now will you answer my question to you?

[wombat2u2004]

Sure.

"By whose estimation is Islam having a "big party" in our country?"
Mine.

And a minority ???
That will change.

My sources ???
Heaps...everywhere I go I see what is happening on a lesser scale than in your country.
We have a beach in Sydney in a suburb that is mostly muslim. White women in that suburb are too frightened to go to that beach wearing bikinis, because they get spat on and called whores by muslim men.
There is another agenda here......and you can listen to all the Popcornbirds you like, it's your choice.
Me ??? Well I guess I see the light, which is further evidenced by the fact that I don't see any so called moderate Popcornbirds condemning such a blatant insult to their host country as building a mosque on a site as sacred as WTC.
Go have a read The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America http://www.danielpipes.org/77/the-da...lam-in-america

[Medusa]

As I see it, it's a matter of sensitivity and not legality. Why must Americans, and families of victims of 9/11 in particular, be sensitive to the wishes of Muslims, whether they are peace loving Muslims or not? Why aren't the Muslims who are so insistent on building the mosque there showing sensitivity to the 9/11 victims' families? Why did the imam say that the mosque must be built there? WHY? Why is it so important to them that it be built there when there are already over 100 mosques in NYC? I've yet to hear anyone question their legality to do so. It's legal; we know. Now that that's out of the way, why must they build there and why must those who object to their building there be labeled as anti anything other than the building of the mosque?

[wombat2u2004]

As I see it, it's a matter of sensitivity and not legality. Why must Americans, and families of victims of 9/11 in particular, be sensitive to the wishes of Muslims, whether they are peace loving Muslims or not? Why aren't the Muslims who are so insistent on building the mosque there showing sensitivity to the 9/11 victim's families? Why did the imam say that the mosque must be built there? WHY? Why is it so important to them that it be built there when there are already over 100 mosques in NYC? I've yet to hear anyone question their legality to do so. It's legal; we know. Now that that's out of the way, why must they build there and why must those who object to their building there be labeled as anti anything other the building of the mosque?

Exactly.
To hell with the moral argument, that's just another Western perversion.

[Bonny]

Once again this is not about hate. It is about common sense & few people seem to have it. It is caring about what we hold dear our Freedom which is not free. We aren't going to forget 911 it was an attack on our country & our freedom. It can happen again too. What about the aid workers in Afghanistan? The Taliban claimed the aid workers were coverting Muslims to Christianity without any proof & killed them all. Now that is hate.

One of the aid workers was related to a friend of mine. He was a dentist. Here is an example of how the men rule in Islam. In a village a warlord in a small village would not allow the dentist to examine his wife's teeth & there were negotiations about how he would perform the exams & how she would keep her face covered during the work. The dental work was done & then the other women in the village were allowed to have their teeth examined. It was one of the dentists greatest accomplishments. He was offered protection by the warlord but it was not enough he was killed.

[wombat2u2004]

It is caring about what we hold dear our Freedom

OMG....BONNY !!!!!!
How can you be so BLATANTLY RASCIST !!!!!!
We need to get back to basics........a fuedal system would be good. The sooner America is Islamised, the better.

[Bonny]

Wombat, The world is getting smaller. We either stand up for freedom or run with our tail tucked in.

[wombat2u2004]

Wombat, The world is getting smaller. We either stand up for freedom or run with our tail tucked in.

Good idea Bonny.
I think we should get some of our moderates to go see the imams and explain the situation to them.
They could say "Look, no disrespect is intended here, but there are some people who don't like some of your ideas. We know that our constitution protects almost everything you do, but could you please see it within your hearts to at least reconsider the relocation of the mosque ???"

I think that'll work.
We have some experts on Constitutional laws right here on this forum...perhaps they should try it.

[RICHARD]

If it makes anyone feel better?

The 100 million dollar project has a total of 28,500 dollars promised so far.
They do not have an architect or any of the other support people needed to START the project.


Now? I really hope the do build it because some of us are going to look back at this thread in a fews months and laugh?

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Well, good ole Nancy P wants everyone who opposes the building of the mosque to be investigated. Why not investigate where they are getting the money to build that thing? I've heard they don't have enough money to even start it yet. I bet there will be some, um, donations from other countries flooding in.

By the way, I also heard there has been a Christian church trying to get permision to build near that area since 9/11. They keep getting denied.

[wombat2u2004]

The Taliban claimed the aid workers were coverting Muslims to Christianity without any proof & killed them all. Now that is hate.

Damn !!! What can we label that as ???? Do they have a word in Arabic that equals "Racist" ???