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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Why don't need another war has nothing to do with the President's
    character and everything to do with the national debt. We can't afford it.
    The prez has character?

    Oh, you must mean that AH Rahm Emmanuel, Now that is a character.

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    Do not waste time, pass go and I'll ship in for the gas and pilot for the mission.

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    A conventional war with the DPRK would not last very long. At best, they operate equipment whose hayday was in the 1960's. There is, however, a LOT of it. If they could achieve strategic surprise and successfully deploy their large 'special forces' units, they could make a mess of things for a day or two.

    But they have nothing that could even come close to matching what happens to them when SK, Japanese and US airpower gets involved.

    The 'war' part of a conflict with the DPRK is the 'easy' part to deal with. How Russia and China react is a complicating factor... Add to that the massive humanitarian crisis that happens after the DPRK's government is gone. THAT would be the expensive and complicated part.


    All IMHO, of course.
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    With thousands of artillery pieces in the mountains north of Seoul, it would be a bloodbath. Our best tools for dealing with them are all in mothballs (I remember well Dad telling me about the New Jersey turning hill 368 into hill 320), and there are some things which require large amount of explosive delivered in a penetrating package at a high arc. Precision is alot, but it ain't everything.

    Conventional war on the Korean Peninsula would be damned ugly. There would be two humanitarian crises, the first being the massive amount of civilian casualties in Seoul and the surrounding areas, the second being integration with the North and South after the war was over.

    China holds Kim's leash, so it's not going to happen. We get into a war with Korea, China backs the North, and the US simply voids all China's bond holdings as a result of their support of the north.

    Russia, at that point, would be sitting on the sidelines laughing, as China is their enemy in more ways than one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    With thousands of artillery pieces in the mountains north of Seoul, it would be a bloodbath. Our best tools for dealing with them are all in mothballs (I remember well Dad telling me about the New Jersey turning hill 368 into hill 320), and there are some things which require large amount of explosive delivered in a penetrating package at a high arc. Precision is alot, but it ain't everything.
    A 2000lb JDAM makes a rather large mess. Or, a MLRS firing platoon, talking to a FIREFINDER MI unit, with a FBCB2.... A conventional artillery battery might get 6 rounds down range before the rain comes. You know, all those 'video game' gadgets we have. The reason why western militaries outclass potential opponents in every way... Even though 'we' are almost always heavily outnumbered.

    Of course, that is all book work and peace time training stuff. The North DOES have a really, really, really large amount of artillery. It would certainly take a lot of time to get it all.

    Conventional war on the Korean Peninsula would be damned ugly. There would be two humanitarian crises, the first being the massive amount of civilian casualties in Seoul and the surrounding areas, the second being integration with the North and South after the war was over.

    China holds Kim's leash, so it's not going to happen. We get into a war with Korea, China backs the North, and the US simply voids all China's bond holdings as a result of their support of the north.

    Russia, at that point, would be sitting on the sidelines laughing, as China is their enemy in more ways than one.
    It is quite the large dookie sandwich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post

    The 'war' part of a conflict with the DPRK is the 'easy' part to deal with. How Russia and China react is a complicating factor... Add to that the massive humanitarian crisis that happens after the DPRK's government is gone. THAT would be the expensive and complicated part.

    You are correct, I was just putting the "wah" in war....

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    hahahahahah

    I hope your hand hurts when you write out the check for the back taxes on your boat/yacht/dinghy, you Yutz.

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    He won't be writing any checks, he's an institution in MA. (assuming you're referring to Sen Kerry's yacht)

    Here's an interesting angle on that one..........if he's claiming he's mooring the yacht in RI, which would arguably make him a resident there, is he eligible to be the Senator from Massachusetts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    hahahahahah

    I hope your hand hurts when you write out the check for the back taxes on your boat/yacht/dinghy, you Yutz.
    Which Yutz is this? I looked back a couple of pages' worth of postings but can't find what you are referring to.

    Senator Kerry? What has he done now? I seem to have missed that too.
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    Hmmmm.....Sen. Kerry might actually be learning! (Either that or the wife's lawyers stepped in)

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...4scTAD9H7KVA81
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    There once was a senator from Nantucket.
    When it came to taxes he said, "Forget it".
    He just cannot be trusted
    for non-paid taxes he was busted.
    And the payment? no, he won't buck it......


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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    hahahahahah

    I hope your hand hurts when you write out the check for the back taxes on your boat/yacht/dinghy, you Yutz.

    Aheh heh heh

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