Haw haw

[Catty1]

blue may have picked on it, but I corrected it. I guess I am something or other by association...

I really think the cake and pie debate should be tried...just to practice technique.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate
Debate or debating is a formal method of interactive and representational argument. Debate is a broader form of argument than logical argument, which only examines consistency from axiom, and factual argument, which only examines what is or isn't the case or rhetoric which is a technique of persuasion. Though logical consistency, factual accuracy and some degree of emotional appeal to the audience are important elements of the art of persuasion; in debating, one side often prevails over the other side by presenting a superior "context" and/or framework of the issue, which is far more subtle and strategic.

The major goal of the study of debate as a method or art is to develop one's ability to play from either position with equal ease.** To inexperienced debaters, some propositions appear easier to defend or to attack; to experienced debaters, any proposition can be defended or attacked after the same amount of preparation time, usually quite short. Lawyers argue forcefully on behalf of their client, even if the facts appear against them. However one large misconception about debate is that it is all about strong beliefs; it is not.

**Liz, you take Puck's side, and Puck, you take Liz's.

[sparks19]

Cake... hands down.

and there is no chance of taking the other side on that one. Pie is good... but cake is best

[pomtzu]

Cake... hands down.

and there is no chance of taking the other side on that one. Pie is good... but cake is best

Ok there missy - why cake??? And what cake??? Just any old cake, or a specific kind??? And just what specifically makes it better than pie? HUH??? And at Thanksgiving, are you going to bake a cake while most "normal" people bake all those yummy pies?? - apple, pumpkin, mincemeat - just because YOU happen to think cake is better???? Boy - you are so out in left field on this one.....

[sparks19]

Ok there missy - why cake??? And what cake??? Just any old cake, or a specific kind??? And just what specifically makes it better than pie? HUH??? And at Thanksgiving, are you going to bake a cake while most "normal" people bake all those yummy pies?? - apple, pumpkin, mincemeat - just because YOU happen to think cake is better???? Boy - you are so out in left field on this one.....

Listen here lady...

first of all cake is better because I can't bake pie lol but I do make a mean cake

Secondly, there are FAR too many pies with fruit in them and as far as I am concerned FRUIT has no place in my desserts lol

and yes I would bake a cake. NORMAL people are boring. I'm eccentric.

and what exactly is mincemeat anyway... doesn't even sound tasty. sounds like a way you would describe road kill

HEY I'm allowed to my have my opinion... cake is better is MY opinion and if you dont' like that then you can suck an egg

[caseysmom]

You cake lovers are all the same...no reasoning with you at all!

Its pie all the way...you put enough sugar on fruit it is a wonderful dessert treat! How about chocolate cream pie....yummo!

And puckie doesn't even like dessert...talk about a commie pinko..you know the rest!!!

[Puckstop31]

You cake lovers are all the same...no reasoning with you at all!

Its pie all the way...you put enough sugar on fruit it is a wonderful dessert treat! How about chocolate cream pie....yummo!

And puckie doesn't even like dessert...talk about a commie pinko..you know the rest!!!

I must offer protest.

If you please review my comments to the lady from Delaware, you will see that I have offered some reasoning.

And how DARE you insinuate I am a communist sympathizer for my personal expression of a lack of desire to indulge in sweet foods?!?!?! Have I, at any point, attempted to force my point of view on the subject upon any other member of this board?

I think not.

[Medusa]

Listen here lady...

first of all cake is better because I can't bake pie lol but I do make a mean cake

Secondly, there are FAR too many pies with fruit in them and as far as I am concerned FRUIT has no place in my desserts lol

and yes I would bake a cake. NORMAL people are boring. I'm eccentric.

and what exactly is mincemeat anyway... doesn't even sound tasty. sounds like a way you would describe road kill

HEY I'm allowed to my have my opinion... cake is better is MY opinion and if you dont' like that then you can suck an egg

I'm w/you, girlie; I'd bake a cake for the holidays and, as a matter of fact, I have done that. I buy a pumpkin pie or have someone bring one for those who like it but I don't care for it. "Normal people are boring" made me LOL.

[pomtzu]

Listen here lady...

first of all cake is better because I can't bake pie lol but I do make a mean cake

Secondly, there are FAR too many pies with fruit in them and as far as I am concerned FRUIT has no place in my desserts lol

and yes I would bake a cake. NORMAL people are boring. I'm eccentric.

and what exactly is mincemeat anyway... doesn't even sound tasty. sounds like a way you would describe road kill

HEY I'm allowed to my have my opinion... cake is better is MY opinion and if you dont' like that then you can suck an egg

OMG - you live in Amish country and you don't know what mincemeat is??? Does Puck let you out of the house much???

Gotta give you credit for the roadkill remark tho. For those strange people that don't know what mincemeat really is, I can see where that might come to mind.

Oh - did Puck ever teach you what Google is all about???

[Catty1]

Normal = a setting on a washing machine.

[pomtzu]

Normal = a setting on a washing machine.

Who asked you??? If you have something meaningful to contribute regarding pies or cakes, then please do. If you think that avoiding the issue at hand is acceptable, then think again. There are already way too many people in the boat of "change the subject". We don't need more........


OMG - I think the heat has finally gotten to me...........

[Bonny]

Thats ok Catty1 (Cathy1) I'll let you get by with it this time.

Pie's are better then cake because if they don't taste good you can smash them into the face of the person that made them. The lemon meringue & bananna cream pies work best for that. Making pies is a delicate art that crust has to be soft, flakey, & good tasting & then there is the filling not to tart not to sweet just right. Baking them is an art. You have to get that lower crust baked thoroughly & the upper crust has to be a light brown but still remain soft & flakey. The Amish women know how to make a good pie but you have to watch out sometimes you can find a stray hair in them.

[pomtzu]

Definitely pies. In general, I think they are healthier - less sugar, less shortening, and there is definitely an art to making them. Much tastier too.

But what makes a cake a cake, and a pie, a pie??? Boston Creme Pie isn't pie, neither is a Moon Pie. So if a cake (or soft cookie) has a filling, it then becomes a pie??? What about cheesecake??? - that's not really cake at all - more like a cheese pie!

Candace - you started this, so would you like to weigh in on this??? Gee - this is off topic too. The OP might not appreciate this debate.

[Catty1]

off topic is GOOD!

[Puckstop31]

For savory types dishes, pie hands down. Granted, there are not to many applications for a savory cake. LOL

But, I am not a big fan of sweets so I eat them rarely. But when I do, carrot cake is often the medium.


So, I pick cake. Layers are fun. Most pie does not have layers.

[pomtzu]

So, I pick cake. Layers are fun. Most pie does not have layers.

But Boston Creme PIE does, if it's really pie and not cake.

So why are you avoiding my question - what defines pie or cake????

Hey - don't blame me. This was Catty's idea............