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    Quote Originally Posted by moosmom View Post
    It's just a plain slap in the face to every one of our troops overseas AND the ones who died defending our country. My uncle Donald Ploss, who won a Purple Heart, is one of them.

    Puck, you just don't get it. Sign up, go over to Afghanistan and Iraq, doing what our dedicated troops are doing, then come back and talk to us. Until then, I stick by my opinion. You are an arrogant, pompous little man who likes to start fires here. Lizbud is right. This has been a long time coming and SO deserved.
    I HAVE. I've got the scars to prove it. I am talking to you from first hand personal experience. If you care... We have fought in other places than just Iraq and Afghanistan you know...

    Are you even reading what I am trying to say? Or are you just letting emotion get in the way?

    I am neither arrogant, pompous and I do not try to start fires. You think that because I don't agree with you. When I first started here, yes. I am trying really hard to not be intentionally inflammatory. So, before you call me names... Please take a second and really read what I am saying.

    I simply do not think we should violate the rights these people die for when things like the OP happen.
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    Okay, everyone, back to your damned corners.

    Puck and Wom don't like each other. Got it.

    However, there was no reason to turn what was a discussion of an issue into personal attacks.

    For those who haven't served, questioning someone's service is a slap in the face. I'd highly advise some of you to use caution if you're going to go down that road, because it's a guarantee that it's going to get ugly.
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    I have a question. What do metals have to do with treatment? Shouldn't everyone that has served purple heart or no purple heart be treated equally?

    Pucky, Just because you served in the military doesn't make you any better then anyone else on here. You can read the oath the military has you say but do you really mean it deep down in your heart or are you using it to make yourself look like the victim?

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    Read the laws covering Purple Heart awardees, Silver star awardees, DSM, CMH, and other medals.

    There are certain benefits they are entitled to expressly because of certain awards, the I forgot to duck award in particular.

    Puck isn't saying he's better than anyone on here, don't see where you're picking that up from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post

    Puck isn't saying he's better than anyone on here, don't see where you're picking that up from?

    Bonny,
    Yeah, where ever did you get that wild idea? Reading
    his posts, most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    Bonny,
    Yeah, where ever did you get that wild idea? Reading
    his posts, most likely.
    I'll ask you the same question. Show me what I said that makes you think what you think about me.

    Show me what I say that makes you think, that I think, I am better than you.
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    There is no real freedom of speech it is all politcal. It is about who you know & what they can do for you in this country. Freedom of Speech has lost its' real meaning in the USA.

    Pucky, The dumb things you did in the military endangered everyone that was a part of your unit. You are not the ONLY ONE that has scares mental or physical that has been off to war & lived to come home to see another day. Metals have the most meaning to those who wear them & they know what they have been through to receive/earn them. The rest of us really don't care about metals but the mental & physical care of each & everyone that serves in the military should be treated fairly that we can agree on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    There is no real freedom of speech it is all politcal. It is about who you know & what they can do for you in this country. Freedom of Speech has lost its' real meaning in the USA.
    Its probably off topic, but what do you think it's real meaning is/was? As I see it, the primary purpose of the speech clause in the 1st Amendment, per the founders, not my words, was to protect 'offensive' political speech. Last I checked, A LOT of people exercise that right and do not go to jail. Even when lies are used.. On all sides.

    Pucky, The dumb things you did in the military endangered everyone that was a part of your unit. You are not the ONLY ONE that has scares mental or physical that has been off to war & lived to come home to see another day. Metals have the most meaning to those who wear them & they know what they have been through to receive/earn them. The rest of us really don't care about metals but the mental & physical care of each & everyone that serves in the military should be treated fairly that we can agree on.
    Bonny... How do you have any idea as to what I did or what happened? I kindly ask you to stop making assumptions. I am really trying to be fair here.

    Did I ever say I am the ONLY one? Where are you seeing this?

    But yes, we can absolutley agree that the mental and physical care a vet recieves should not have anything to do with any particular medal they are awarded.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    I'll ask you the same question. Show me what I said that makes you think what you think about me.

    One cannot prove perceptions. It is what it is. Observations & insights
    accumumilated over many months tend to stick around until things change.
    Your profestations to the contrary, they haven't changed at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    One cannot prove perceptions. It is what it is. Observations & insights
    accumumilated over many months tend to stick around until things change.
    This, I can agree with. Thanks.

    Your profestations to the contrary, they haven't changed at all.
    This, I disagree with. Frankly, I doubt I will ever change your mind, no matter what I do.


    But, I always like a challenge.


    All I ask is that you not hate me for my opinions. We all have different ideas about things. I think we can discuss them in a rational manner, that does not require resorting to childish personal attacks. And, regardless of your perceptions, a great many others here seem to think I have changed a lot in the years.
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    Hey LH.

    Is it time for this yet?

    "Black 8, White 2 Golf. Fire Mission - break- Tango Romeo Papa 7 - break - drop 200. Danger Close, immediate suppression, over."

    "White 2 Golf, Black 8. Fire mission, roger. Tango Romeo Papa 7, drop 200, over."

    "Black 8, White 2 Golf. Roger. Over."

    - 30 seconds pass, or so

    "Shot, over."

    "Shot, out."

    "Splash, over."

    "Splash, Out."


    ????

    (FYI, this is how my last Cav Troop did it when calling organic assets..)
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