Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
Pucky, That is what bothers me, these kids that get whatever they want, whenever they want. There probably won't be any S.S. left but I am going to enjoy it while I can. A person can not just rely on S.S. to tied you over & if a person is smart there will be cash under the mattress.
What do I tell my kid(s) then?

Unions?!?! My dad belonged to the railroad union my husband United Parcel Service Union. If you didn't want to be working a 12 hour day 7 days a week with only a day off a month like my grandfather did on the railroad when there were no unions then a union would make sense. The employees pay into the union so it does not involve the state or federal funds that I know of. There are mom & pop companys in this country that still exist where you don't need a union they are good to you & you are like family. But when you get into the big Corps. you better have your back side protected.
I have no problem with private company unions. So long as the employee knows what he is getting into.

Everyone has to keep trying to come up with something that will work, we can't be dependent on oil forever.
I agree 100%. But until we get 'there', what do we do?

Yes this is a good discussion. I don't have numbers to back any thing up & when you do have numbers where do they come from? It would be like I won the championship with my steer at the fair. No one asks how many were in the class with me? What if there was only one other person & they got reserve?
http://www.usdebtclock.org/


http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/...cit_chart.html


http://www.visualeconomics.com/gdp-v...bt-by-country/



For starters... But, any one can do the math. Look at the current debt. Add the current (projected) deficit. Look at the pending number of retirees, then compare that to the number of people who will be working and paying SS taxes.

Something HAS to give. One way or the other. Wait till all the 'stimulus' money is spent, with nothing to show for it, save shiny new roads and bridges. 2.5 trillion or so in 'new' money, chasing the original amount of goods and services.....

Simply put, the government(s) has to stop spending money like they are.