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    Johanna, I'm so sorry to hear that Allie's still not eating. Yes, pain meds or some antibiotics will make animals not want to eat. Clavamox has caused Storm to become very sick so I always have to mention that he's allergic to it now.

    When Ziggy had her pancreatitis they did give her a liquid form of famotidine,which is what's in pepcid, along with fluids, pain meds, and a vitamin B12 shot. I'm currently giving Storm the original strength of pepcid in pill form and he gets 5mg which would be 1/2 a pill of it every night. It's helped him with his tummy issues. You might want to ask your vet if this would be something that would help her and maybe you could get it in liquid form from your vet. Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent her way. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

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    I syringe fed Allie this morning, and had another transfer factor pill in there. She hated it..but, it wasn't the same hate that it was with the meds. I flipped her on her back and wrapped her in a towel. I am hoping she will submit once she realizes my will for her to survive is kind of strong.

    I wonder...how much should I be giving her? I put about 3/4 of a tablespoon of A/D, mixed with water, and it came out to about 12 MLs. I got about 9 MLs in her. I plan on doing it 3 times a day, and wonder if there is a target to shoot for?

    She is more alert today, and I assume most of the pain meds are out. I wonder, though, what the consequences are with giving her NO antibiotics at all. I remember that with TNR, a female is spayed without any additional antibiotic, and seemingly does ok. I think Allie's surgery was more invasive than a typical spay...but, hope I am not killing her by not giving antibiotics.

    Thoughts?

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    I think the antibiotics are more for the open wounds not for the interior ones so that should be ok. I hope Allie's will for survival is strong too- and it must be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post
    I syringe fed Allie this morning, and had another transfer factor pill in there. She hated it..but, it wasn't the same hate that it was with the meds. I flipped her on her back and wrapped her in a towel. I am hoping she will submit once she realizes my will for her to survive is kind of strong.

    I wonder...how much should I be giving her? I put about 3/4 of a tablespoon of A/D, mixed with water, and it came out to about 12 MLs. I got about 9 MLs in her. I plan on doing it 3 times a day, and wonder if there is a target to shoot for?

    She is more alert today, and I assume most of the pain meds are out. I wonder, though, what the consequences are with giving her NO antibiotics at all. I remember that with TNR, a female is spayed without any additional antibiotic, and seemingly does ok. I think Allie's surgery was more invasive than a typical spay...but, hope I am not killing her by not giving antibiotics.

    Thoughts?
    9 ml per feeding - that would be about 1 ounce per day. Doesn't seem like enough to me, but would check with your Vet tomorrow and see how much they think is a good amount. Also ask about the antibiotic. There is one out there that can be given by injection and is good for 2 weeks. Not sure if that is the type of ABX they prefer, but might be better than none at all.

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    Grace- I thought the same thing. I am going to up it to 9 or so MLs a time x 3. But, I will ask tomorrow, too.

    Barbara- I hear you. I really do.

    Johanna

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    Open wounds

    I agree with Barbara about the open wound. I had two surgeries, and no antibiotics afterwards but then I didn't lick my wound, like a kitty might. Is she still wearing the E-collar? Is she attempting to lick the wound? I would keep an eye on the site and if it looks good, then I would forget about the antibiotics altogether.

    I hope she begins to eat soon. Any chance she might like baby food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasvermont View Post
    I agree with Barbara about the open wound. I had two surgeries, and no antibiotics afterwards but then I didn't lick my wound, like a kitty might. Is she still wearing the E-collar? Is she attempting to lick the wound? I would keep an eye on the site and if it looks good, then I would forget about the antibiotics altogether.

    I hope she begins to eat soon. Any chance she might like baby food?
    When my Scooter Bug was so sick, all he wanted was the "meat only" type of baby food. He would eat that over anything else. Baby food is a good temporary idea.

    Hope she feels better soon!

    I will miss you forever, my sweet Scooter Bug. You were my best friend. 9/21/1995 - 1/23/2010
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    She isn't licking at all, thankfully! So, I am feeling a tad better about the no antibiotics thing. There is some controversy anyhow with antibiotics and the effect it can have on our body.

    I just finished syringe feeding number two. I fed her about 1 tablespoon, minus a few MLs, I am sure. Judging by my t-shirt...it isn't really an exact and clean science. I will do one more tonight, and lay down some fresh wet stuff and send a BIG prayer that tonight is the night she begins eating on her own.

    The thing about the types of food...and let me tell you, I have twice the amount of opened catfood in there than I do human food, is it just doesn't seem to matter. Allie doesn't want to eat, period.

    I have found that A/D is the best liquidity type to do, and mixed with water...it prolly is the most nutritionally dense. I wish I had more of the larger sized syringes. I had to fill 10 little ones. I will try to track down some bigger ones tomorrow.

    Thanks again...chant with me- Eat, Allie, Eat!

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