Couple loses twins to surrogate

**Grace** · 06-15-2010, 06:14 PM

State by state surrogacy laws.

**Asiel** · 06-15-2010, 07:23 PM

I can't judge what the circustances really are in this case. To me it seems as though the surrogate mom used the mental illness issue as a weapon to keep the babies. If everyone with a mental illness was prevented from having children there might not be a next generation to worry about.

Adopting a child is very hard today, especially if one wants a baby. But that's the road I would have chosen had I been in the Kehoe's position. The risk with surrogacy is just too great.
I don't think anyone will ever know the real story behind this issue no matter what is printed or said.

I feel very sad for the poor couple whe were misled by this woman.

**RICHARD** · 06-15-2010, 09:19 PM

There's a couple of pre grown kids in AZ that are available and what is wrong with a kid from another country?

**NicoleLJ** · 06-15-2010, 09:25 PM

nobody said there was anything wrong with getting a baby from another country or adoption. They just chose to not do that option. They wanted to try surrogacy. It is a choice, not a put down to other avenues.

**Grace** · 06-15-2010, 10:20 PM

The real, biological parents of these twins are an egg from a pre-med student at the University of Michigan and a sperm from a California Cryobank, an athletic male with a 4.0 high school GPA.

Wonder how they feel about this - if they even know, which is doubtful. They both got $$$ for their donations and most likely never gave it another moments thought.

**RICHARD** · 06-15-2010, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by NicoleLJ

nobody said there was anything wrong with getting a baby from another country or adoption. They just chose to not do that option. They wanted to try surrogacy. It is a choice, not a put down to other avenues.

My solution was to take the kids from the other thread and have them get with this family.

No judgement about who, what or why they were looking for someone else to have their kids.

**Karen** · 06-15-2010, 10:56 PM

I never trust shows like Dr. Phil to tell the whole truth of the story, so am not going to proffer an opinion on this one, as the shows always seems to pick someone's "side" and slant things a particular way.

**snakemama** · 06-15-2010, 11:24 PM

Fascinating...I have offered to surrogate for a gay couple I'm friends with, so articles about surrogacy always catch my eye. The state by state surrogacy laws were a great find, so thank you Grace for posting those.

I don't know what to think of the situation in the article...How sad for EVERYONE.

**moosmom** · 06-17-2010, 05:09 AM

Lizbud,

I watched Dr. Phil and I thought they said those babies had no genetic link to any of them. Correct me if I'm wrong. I also agree about the surrogate's attitude. But, possession is 9/10's of the law. Personally, I think they should ALL be in counseling for a very long time. Not only that, but according to MI law, surrogacy is illegal in that State. So, who's guilty? Certainly not those two beautiful twins who didn't ask to be in the middle of this mess.

I also think the "parents to be" should've had a lawyer present. Something so sensitive as surrogacy needs fine tuning and alot more than just having a baby and handing it over. The "i's" need dotting and the "tees" need crossing.

If I still had my plumbing, I'd gladly be a surrogate for someone in need. But because of my past medical history, no one would touch me. Fine with me. I can't stand screaming, obnoxious children anyway.

**popcornbird** · 06-17-2010, 12:52 PM

Honestly, I can't understand what the couple was trying to do.

I understand their heartbreak, completely, when they were unable to have a child of their own. I understand their desire to have a child to raise. What I don't understand is...what is the benefit of going to a surrogate?

Using the sperm of an unrelated man, the egg of an unrelated woman, and the womb of an unrelated woman, this couple had two children with 3 different parents, all meant to be 'unknown' to them, and were expecting to raise the children in their family...giving the children two more parents. 5. The children are unrelated to them in every shape and form, so it is nothing more than a very complicated way of seeking adoption. With so many orphans in this world, so many children and babies who don't have parents and NEED a loving home, I would've gone with the route of adoption if I were in their shoes.

I have been through pregnancy and childbirth. I have experienced seeing my child on ultrasounds, feeling him kick and squirm, and yes, those feelings truly bond a mother to the child. For the surrogate, I cannot imagine that she wouldn't have had those feelings. After all that, then going through the pain of childbirth, and seeing those beautiful children that she carried for 9 months for the first time, I cannot imagine how she would want to give them to someone else. It doesn't stop there. Once you deliver a child, your breats fill with milk...a constant reminder that you are the baby's mother...you are the one who is meant to feed him.

I guess at the end of the day, I realize they had an agreement and that's what they are fighting for, but I feel it was an agreement made without thorough thinking, and with this many people involved in the birth of the children, heartbreak was bound to happen.

When mankind diverts from the natural order of life and tries to do things the way they are not meant to be, problems will result. I hurt for the twins more than anyone else, precious, innocent babies, born into such a big mess.

**moosmom** · 06-17-2010, 01:08 PM

I wonder if the surrogate would've given the baby up if there was only one. Something to ponder.

**moosmom** · 06-17-2010, 01:14 PM

If they want kids so bad, why don't they go adopt the two kids the mother no longer wanted? Seems like a win/win situation to me.

To clarify mental illness...I suffer from depression, ADD, PTSD, anxiety and a hearing loss in my right ear. I've got a kid. Of course I wasn't diagnosed till much later. But I do believe that couples that enter into this sort of thing both need lawyers, and they need to be counseled in the event this happens again. And believe me, it will.

They need to really fine tune the laws on surrogacy, IMO.

**Taz_Zoee** · 06-17-2010, 02:20 PM

Just wanted to remind everyone, the surrogate mother has been a surrogate twice before. This wasn't her first time. She also has 4 children of her own.