Hmm, Justice finally served?

[Marigold2]

I agree this seems a bit harsh. There comes a time when every parent has to let their child go out into the world and spread their wings.
It is one of the hardest things to do, to let go and let them explore but it has to be done for the child to learn, live and grow.
I am sure NH mom spoke to her before the trip about the dangers. Perhpas he spiked her drink, I find it hard to believe that she would lose judgement so quickley and either continue to drink until she had no idea what was happening or just leave with them.
These types of deaths occur all over the world and with all age groups. How many people get drunk and get behind a car and drive, millions I am sure.
Her mom is suffering more then you can ever imagine Richard not because you are mean but because you are not a parent. Her pain is deeper then most people know. Her judgement is not what it should be right now.
Many people break down from this type of stress, I feel she has suffered enough.
If it had been me I would probably have killed him in Aruba with my bare hands. She decided to trust the justice system and she is a better person then I for that.

I am not sure I follow your posts, Richard and Moosmom. Are you suggesting that the victim's mother, Natalie's mother, is somehow responsible for this?

That seems pretty harsh, doesn't it?

[RICHARD]

Her mom is suffering more then you can ever imagine Richard not because you are mean but because you are not a parent. Her pain is deeper then most people know. Her judgement is not what it should be right now.

No, I am not a parent, but I have lost loved ones.

Both my dad and long time GF died w/in 6 month of each other. That may not qualify me as a 'grieving parent' but I think I can claim membership in the "Losing a Loved One Bar and Grill".

BH's neverending quest to get justice for her daughter must be eating at her soul right now. The news has reported that BH & family put up the money for the sting operation. They also say that JVS was broke, that BLOOD money he was paid gave him the chance to get out of Aruba and travel.

Yeah, it's a pretty sucky story, but if BH wasn't so focused on getting JVS to go to jail, none of this would not have happened.

So?

Instead of getting info on what actually happened to her daughter?

He may clam up and she will forfeit any information of what really happened 5 years ago.

[caseysmom]

Those high school trips are bad news. We went to Cancun several years ago and there were drunk teens all over the place, I tried to talk sense into some of them.

My kids knew not to even ask if they could do that. The parents have to sign a consent whether the kid is 18 or not since it is a school event. Natalee's mom could have grown a back bone.

I'm with Richard on this one its one thing to get independence its another thing to walk into a stupid, dangerous situation.

[RICHARD]

If you gave someone a dollar to buy you a beer and they killed someone on the way home, would you feel badly?

If you had a party and let a guest drive home drunk and they got killed or arrested? Would you feel bad?

Better yet,

If you lost a child to a predator, that they met in a casino/bar, then bankrolled a sting to bring him to justice, which allowed them to go on to kill a woman in a casino in another country?

Would that absolve you of any guilt or blame?

I do not think I would have any problem feeling like poop for my involvement.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Once again I read in the morning paper of some kids killed on the way home from prom.

This happens every year all across the country?

Why do parents still allow their children to attend prom when they know how dangerous it is and how often kids are killed? The parents know that drinking and other bad things happen?

The parents who allow their children to attend prom are responsible for the death of their child if that child is killed.

A parent who allows their child to attend prom is a bad parent even if the child is not killed.

And any attempt to make something better for other people as a result is nothing but grand standing.

And any children who are subsequently killed attending prom - their blood is on the hands of the mothers.

These are the things I learn on PetTalk.

[RICHARD]

Yeah,

They got a confession from JVS re the Peruvian woman he killed.

Maybe NH's mom can bail him out with the 235,000 dollars she still owes him.

[RICHARD]

Van der Sloot was charged Thursday in the United States with trying to extort $250,000 from Holloway's family in exchange for disclosing the location of her body and describing how she died.

U.S. prosecutors say $15,000 was transferred to a Dutch bank account in his name. In the Netherlands on Friday, prosecutors raided two homes in the case, seizing computers, cell phones and data-storage devices.

Holloway told ABC that only his ex-wife Beth Twitty had been told about the case by the FBI until shortly before the charges were made public.

"That was handled by the FBI and I knew nothing about it. I think the only person that was involved in this incident was Beth. The FBI indicated that only the people involved in it should know," Holloway told ABC.

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Send any money that you bet with me to the American Red Cross.

[RICHARD]

Those high school trips are bad news. We went to Cancun several years ago and there were drunk teens all over the place, I tried to talk sense into some of them.

Next time you go, take me and I'll make you some money....I'll hold them up and you grab the wallet/purse.

You have a kid who is drunk in a frat house or party.

Someone will steer them to their room or leave them asleep on the patio furniture,

Now, take the same kid and put them in another state/country with more booze in their body? Nothing good wil come of that.

Not all kids are that loose/stupid when it comes to alcohol/vacations.

We only hear about he dead ones. I bet there are tons of people who 'only' get into trouble and are bailed out-money they could save by being responsible?

I find the whole thing so incredibly sad.............. Two beautiful girls dead for what? I hope he gets the death penelty.

No, DP in Peru, they max out a sentence at 35 years for murder. He may not even serve that.

The jails in Peru are screwed up from what they have said on the tube.

He may not make it out of there alive.

[RICHARD]

My mom and I would have some pretty nifty conversations about news stories and this one was one of our most talked about.

We hashed this out for months.

I really miss her and would love to hear her spin on this part of the story..I am jealous that she may know what happened with NH and the real story behind her murder.....

Last night I saw two different stories on WHERE THE MONEY JVS was paid came from.
One says that the FBI financed the sting and another absolves them.

The FBI says that they didn't pay it and BH isn't coming forth to say anything at all.

Too sad.

[RICHARD]

Wow,

I don't like Greta Van Cistern, but she spoke to the parents of the gal JVS killed in Peru.

That family sure has grace under pressure.

Incredible and sad....

[RICHARD]

I caught the end of an MSNBC program last night on JVS.

What a crappy set of circumstances this time around. Everyone is pointing fingers and playing knuckleheads.

The reporter talking to the gent who actually met with JVS in Aruba did a good job clearing up some of the questions about the case.

NH's mom was the source of the money that allowed JVS to split the country.

I had seen part of the interview before and BH had time to open up a traveler's center, but no time to try and get ing touch with the family of hte murdered girl.

She sent out a 'press release' instead.