Arizona immigration law

**RICHARD** · 05-08-2010, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by lizbud

WE have the answer for those who feel threatened with deportation.
It's the Gringo Mask.

http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/ar...en-up/19467712

Just by looking at the story and seeing that this novelty started in FLA by "hispanics"?

I can probably deduce that it was a bunch of Cubans sitting around looking for a laugh or two.

I have to laugh every time I see the "latino/hispanic" labels come out.

I firmly believe in the "take responsibility for yourself" rule of life and am bothered at the 'paint brush' used to cover everyone from "latin" America.

Where the eff is Latin America? Haven't seen that on a map?

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There will be the group of people who will take the 'whitey' masks and blame them all on those "dirty messicans making fun of us!!"

I really do not care who calls me what, but, I find it a bit off-putting that some factions of the community act stupidly-The Cubans are a separate set of the 'latino' community.

I will not sugar coat the fact that within the Carribean/Mexican/SouAm groups there is racism/prejudice also. There are groups that cannot live with each other because of some slights, real and percieved, that they cannot forget or move on from.

One problem?
The Mexicans enforce their southern border because they do not want any of the CentAm groups moving up into the country.

Why?

They push the poor and impoverished Mexican locals north, to escape the economic stress put on that system by people who are poorer and do not respect the areas they live in.

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Before I go off on a tangent?

I laughed at the idea of wearing a mask to hide your looks.

But, to think that a group, who has no real dog in the fight regarding this topic, putting out a idea like that, irritates me.

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Here's another story that got my goat.

Some 'white' kids were sent home from school because they wore 'stars and stripes' clothing on CdM. The admin sent them home because they thought that the clothing had the potential to start a fight between the brown and white folks.

So what is the answer from the 'latino' kids?

They ditch school and march to protest the fact that these kids were wearing American Flag clothing.

It showed disrespect to them.

Eff them.
Please, I would have rounded them up, tasered them, and frog marched them back to school.

My father, a dyed in the wool Mexican, would have rolled his eyes and given his famous line......

"The cops here should do what the cops in Mexico did to the students who marched in the 60's, fire them up with machine guns...."

My dad was a pacifist and probably saw him mad three times in my life?

But, he had no patience for A-holery against the country that he came to settle in. He did not suffer fools lightly and had NO patience for idiots.

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Mom would often tease him by asking this question, "If the U.S. and Mexico went to war, who would you fight for?"

"The winning side.........the U.S.!"

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Look,

There is a huge problem w/immigration, Some illegals really do not care about living here and being productive w/in the community, they only want to make money and send it home to the families they left behind.

Living 8-10-14 people in house with two bedrooms and a garage, isn't living.

The people here legally and the citizens of the U.S. that have issue with the laws, do have a point.

But, having everyone here legally and controlling who enters, stays and contributes is another matter.

Just the idea of having a law like the one in AZ will deter many people trying to cross into the U.S. at that point, but what does that do to CA and TX?

People will focus their efforts there.

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The Mexican media sensationalize the law-more than the U.S. media- and that is a good thing.

By and large, a great percentage of the illegal immigrants here in the U.S. are uneducated, poor and desperate.

They hear a story about the cars, homes, stores and they want to be here.

I don't blame them, I like it too.

We are not doing anyone any favors by not cracking down on the influx of people who refuse to follow the rules. We hurt them and hurt ourselves.

Rock on some more.

**momoffuzzyfaces** · 05-08-2010, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

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Here's another story that got my goat.

Some 'white' kids were sent home from school because they wore 'stars and stripes' clothing on CdM. The admin sent them home because they thought that the clothing had the potential to start a fight between the brown and white folks.

So what is the answer from the 'latino' kids?

They ditch school and march to protest the fact that these kids were wearing American Flag clothing.

It showed disrespect to them.

Eff them.
Please, I would have rounded them up, tasered them, and frog marched them back to school.

My father, a dyed in the wool Mexican, would have rolled his eyes and given his famous line......

"The cops here should do what the cops in Mexico did to the students who marched in the 60's, fire them up with machine guns...."

My dad was a pacifist and probably saw him mad three times in my life?

But, he had no patience for A-holery against the country that he came to settle in. He did not suffer fools lightly and had NO patience for idiots.

--------------------------

Mom would often tease him by asking this question, "If the U.S. and Mexico went to war, who would you fight for?"

"The winning side.........the U.S.!"

-----------------------

Look,

There is a huge problem w/immigration, Some illegals really do not care about living here and being productive w/in the community, they only want to make money and send it home to the families they left behind.

Living 8-10-14 people in house with two bedrooms and a garage, isn't living.

The people here legally and the citizens of the U.S. that have issue with the laws, do have a point.

But, having everyone here legally and controlling who enters, stays and contributes is another matter.

Just the idea of having a law like the one in AZ will deter many people trying to cross into the U.S. at that point, but what does that do to CA and TX?

People will focus their efforts there.

------------

The Mexican media sensationalize the law-more than the U.S. media- and that is a good thing.

By and large, a great percentage of the illegal immigrants here in the U.S. are uneducated, poor and desperate.

They hear a story about the cars, homes, stores and they want to be here.

I don't blame them, I like it too.

We are not doing anyone any favors by not cracking down on the influx of people who refuse to follow the rules. We hurt them and hurt ourselves.

Rock on some more.

The thing that got the entire stars and striped shirts started was the vice principal of the school. From what I've heard no one had a problem until he stuck his nose out and told the boys to go home or turn their shirts inside out. He is of latino descent from what I've heard and felt disrespected. After he did that, then the students thought maybe they should be offended about the shirts too and started protesting and a way we go.

**Bonny** · 05-09-2010, 08:03 AM

Richard, I looked up Mexico-US History & found a census. In the census it came up with Hispanic & Latin American of any race. They put the two together at 14.8 percent compared to 74 percent whites in the U.S. There must not be a Central America anymore?

**wombat2u2004** · 05-09-2010, 09:20 AM

Richards posts make a lot of sense, and I can see the fors and againsts about the whole situation.
But what about the Mexican Govt ??? What are they doing about the situation ???? They blocking THEIR south border against illegal immigrants and not caring about their own people entering the USA ????
And if there is so much poverty in Mexico, why isn't something done about that by Mexico itself ????

An interesting article from USAID.........
Mexico is a member of the North America Free Trade Agreement and shares a 2,000-mile border with the United States. Mexico, the 14th largest economy in the world, and second largest trading partner of the United States, had $11 billion in foreign direct investment, and received $23.9 billion in remittances in 2007. Mexico faces huge gaps between rich and poor, north and south, urban and rural. Over 40 percent of the country’s population live on less than $2 per day while close to 18 percent live on less than $1 per day.

Ok....so what do we see here ???? The rich not caring about the poor ???
I mean gee....even China sorted that one out years ago. They even made laws that governed how many children a family can have. I don't see such initiatives being implemented in Mexico.

And for those who keep pointing the "Racist" finger....forget the easy cop-outs.......discuss the PROBLEM !!!! It's illegal immigration we are discussing....not racism.

**Medusa** · 05-10-2010, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

And for those who keep pointing the "Racist" finger....forget the easy cop-outs.......discuss the PROBLEM !!!! It's illegal immigration we are discussing....not racism.

Thank you for that. Even though I haven't contributed to this particular discussion, this is primarily why. I've grown weary of the racism accusation.