200,000 Gallons A Day

[Laura's Babies]

The ripple effect of this mess will touch us all! Goods transported through the Gulf of Mexico, I think have already stopped. I doubt anything is coming in or out of the Mississippi River. The big oil refineries we have here will be cut off..no way to get the stuff in or out. You would not believe how much stuff is transported up and down that Mississippi River, headed to the gulf. A lot of what we push is coal that goes down the river to be shipped overseas... Prices are going to sky rocket, jobs are going to be lost.

If this leaking the oil into the gulf isn't stopped, we ALL are going to suffer. This new thing they are trying HAS to work or the impact of this in the gulf is going to throw things into a tail spin that will eventually effect us all in our every day life.

My great nephew just posted a beautiful video on facebook he made of Pensacola beach and I just got sick watching it, thinking of what could happen to those beautiful beaches because of this.

[lizbud]

Before the Big Spill

Oil companies have a history of ill-timed fights against safety improvements.
By Paul Sabin
Posted Friday, May 7, 2010, at 5:25 PM ET

The site of the recent Gulf oil spill In the last half-century, three major oil spills have significantly marked American politics—the 1969 Santa Barbara, Calif., spill, the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill, and now the 2010 spill in the Gulf.


They have a striking thing in common: Each occurred after the oil industry successfully resisted demands for safety improvements that would have greatly reduced the damage the spills caused. These technological fixes either were already standard or would later become so—and mandatory. By fighting them off in the short-term, the oil companies cost themselves huge amounts of money and the rest of us an environmental debacle.

Off the coast of Santa Barbara in the late 1960s, the Union Oil Company operated just beyond state waters, where the federal government makes the rules. Those federal rules were more lax about safety than California's. In particular, the oil companies successfully avoided state requirements to use extra protective casing to strengthen the well and prevent accidents. After the well blew out in 1969, approximately 100,000 barrels of oil spilled into the ocean, polluting the beaches and near shore waters.

Take two: In the late 1970s, the Carter Administration and environmental advocates called for double-hull oil tankers that would protect against spills by providing a second hull to absorb impacts and safeguard a ship's oil. The oil industry insisted that single-hull tankers were safe and headed off the double-hull mandate. After the single-hull Exxon Valdez tanker crashed in Prince William Sound and spilled 270,000 barrels of oil, a Coast Guard study suggested that a double-hull probably would have reduced the oil spilled by 60 percent. Congress passed legislation in 1990 requiring double-hulls in Prince William Sound by 2015, and more than 100 countries have pledged to ban the single-hull tankers by the same year. The Exxon single-hulls continue to chug along, though.


In the Gulf of Mexico, BP and its drilling contractor, Transocean Ltd., chose not to install a $500,000 remote-control shut-off switch that might have contained the recent spill from BP's well. Norway has required these switches since 1993. The U.S. Minerals Management Service considered a similar requirement several years ago, but the oil industry killed off the proposal. And so, but for $500,000, we probably have billions of dollars in liability and cleanup expenses in the Gulf, plus a long-term threat to the livelihoods and ecology of the region that we can't yet quantify.

Cutting corners to keep down costs is an age-old business strategy, from coal mines to sweatshops and the dumping of hazardous wastes. The history of these oil spills makes clear, however, that when it leads to a disaster, cost cutting becomes a bad corporate bet.

The Santa Barbara spill kicked off the environmental decade of the 1970s, spurring an otherwise indifferent Richard Nixon to champion the National Environmental Policy Act and creation of the Environmental Protection Agency. Any developer in the past 40 years who has struggled to complete an arduous environmental impact statement can partly credit Union Oil's resistance to additional well casing for NEPA's tough rules. The California spill also prompted a decades-long moratorium on new oil drilling off the coast of California.

The Valdez spill invigorated institutional investors and environmental activists to press companies to adopt the Ceres Principles, a new code of corporate environmental conduct. The accident also brought the passage of the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, which barred the Exxon Valdez ship and others involved in oil spills from operating in Prince William Sound.

So if you take a longer environmental view, has the industry's balking over safety improvements actually been a boon? It's not pretty, but birds dying coated in oil and fishermen lamenting their losses can change the political calculus. This recent spill is yielding a similar backlash against Big Oil. The spill has significantly undercut President Obama's proposed expansion of offshore drilling. Politicians from Florida to Virginia are lining up to oppose coastal oil development.

The problem is that offshore drilling is key to the White House's proposed grand bargain on energy and climate. On Friday, Lindsey Graham called for delaying the climate bill, in part because of the renewed opposition to drilling. If the already-tenuous deal unravels, then the Gulf oil spill will not just be an environmental disaster. It will also be a political one.

[cassiesmom]

I heard on the news tonight that they're going to try again to put the top part of the containment dome over the well, but it's still leaking a couple of hundred thousand gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico every day.

[lizbud]

It is strange to think that we are watching such a major disaster in
the making and nobody seems to know how to stop the destruction.

What will you tell your children when they ask one day why this happened?


http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/14/gul....html?hpt=Sbin

[Karen]

It's so disheartening how little coverage this is getting in the network news, and it is still happening, a disaster in progress!

[Puckstop31]

Well, I think it is pretty clear they know HOW it happened. Sadly, so far, the containment efforts have failed.

BP has about 5,000 such wells around the world. 1 failure out of 5,000 is a pretty good ratio.


As for telling my daughter about this, should she ask some day... "Honey, 'doo doo occurs'. Through out history, man has strived to make their lives better. Cheap and abundant energy is reason number one we live the lifestyle we do. Sadly, sometimes things like this happen. That's life. When bad things happen, learn from it, fix it if possible and keep going."

[lizbud]

Sadly, sometimes things like this happen. That's life. When bad things happen, learn from it, fix it if possible and keep going."

There is risk involved in drilling the deepest well in the world, in one
of the most sensitive enviromental areas in this country. They were
allowed to gamble on everything turning out ok. It didn't and now we
get to see the companies involved scramble around for a fix for this.

A plan B wasn't in place before they drilled and, if some politicans hadn't
been in bed with big oil, we could have demanded they have a recovery
option in place.

p.s. " Honey, S*** happens" What kind of thing is that for an adult to tell a kid? Pitiful.

[Puckstop31]

There is risk involved in drilling the deepest well in the world, in one
of the most sensitive enviromental areas in this country. They were
allowed to gamble on everything turning out ok. It didn't and now we
get to see the companies involved scramble around for a fix for this.

There is risk invovled in most innovative things Liz. Should humanity stop trying to innovate just beause there is risk involved?

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Or, 'a ship is safe in harbor, but that is not what ships are for.'

A plan B wasn't in place before they drilled and, if some politicans hadn't been in bed with big oil, we could have demanded they have a
recovery
option in place.

Its my understanding there was a "plan B" in place. Sadly, it failed as well.

And who, pray tell, are these politicians you speak of?

p.s. " Honey, S*** happens" What kind of thing is that for an adult to tell a kid? Pitiful.

In classic Lizbud fashion, you fail to use an entire quote in context. Shocker.

Tell me... Is it wrong to teach a child the way the world really is? Also, recall your original question here included 'one day'. I would not explain it, that way, to my 2 year old. When she is 10 perhaps? Yes.

(ETA - Do you actually think I would use the exact words, "S*** Happens"? If you do... Wow, what did I ever do to you to make you think that? Disagree with you? No wonder you are so easily duped. LOL)

I am not going to shelter my child(ren) from the realities of the world. I will not rob her of future opportunites because I refused to teach her the truth. And the TRUTH is, bad things happen.

[lizbud]

Well, I think it is pretty clear they know HOW it happened. Sadly, so far, the containment efforts have failed.

BP has about 5,000 such wells around the world. 1 failure out of 5,000 is a pretty good ratio.

Did you know they have different requirements for oil drilling in other countries than the US does? No.., Didn't think so. Ever think that's why this has not happened elsewhere? No, didn't think so. You realy ought to read more on the topic.

[Puckstop31]

Did you know they have different requirements for oil drilling in other countries than the US does? No.., Didn't think so. Ever think that's why this has not happened elsewhere? No, didn't think so. You realy ought to read more on the topic.

Hmmmmm....

http://www.oilrigdisasters.co.uk/


And by the way, YES to your questions. Didn't your mommy teach you to not ASSuME?


Liz... Accidents happen. Thats all I am trying to say. But, if you still feel the need to project your inadequacies at me, feel free to carry on. You asked a question, I answered it.