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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    The 14th amendment to the Constitution give the power to enforce immigration law to the federal government, not the states.

    If you want to impeach you congressional delegation for failing to uphold their oaths of office (refusing to enforce the law of the land in relation to immigration) then do so.

    Passing a patently unconstitutional law to try to fix something doesn't make it right.
    So, how does one go about impeaching the federal government? They are the ones not enforcing their own law to make it illegal for people to hire undocumented workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    So, how does one go about impeaching the federal government? They are the ones not enforcing their own law to make it illegal for people to hire undocumented workers.
    It's already illegal for employers to hire illegal immigrants.

    You can't impeach the entire federal government, but a congressman or two would be a good start.

    Barring that, start a recall petition drive.
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    They are all over the place like flies, even here in upper Ohio they work in the nursery not far from where I live.
    It's a disgrace to every hard working legal immigrent who came here and had to do all the paperwork and follow all the rules.
    What is the problem with shooting them at the boarder with a tazer and then sending their illegal rear ends back to wench they came from?
    Or sending them to jail? After all they did break the law!
    And while we are at it lets revoke the anker baby crap already. If the baby is born here fine, it can stay but mom and dad, grandma and 15 cousins who don't speak English go home already. Baby can be adopted out.

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    Again, what does an illegal immigrant look or sound like?

    Have you checked with the nursery workers to see if they're illegal? Just because someone doesn't look "right" doesn't mean they're illegal.

    If you're so certain they ARE illegals, why not call INS yourself?
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    I know because they come up every summer to work in the nursery which is one of the biggest in the state if not the country. They don't speak English and they leave right after that and this year I will be calling you can bet your sweet bippy. As to what they look like, they all look alike, dirty, covered in soil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    As to what they look like, they all look alike, dirty, covered in soil.
    That means damned near every farmer in upstate NY is an illegal immigrant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    what does an illegal immigrant look or sound like?
    This is what worries me about immigrants (whether legal or not) to Chicago. Employers are not supposed to hire illegals, but they do. I'm concerned that it is going to turn into an issue of Hispanic = illegal and white = legal around here, which is not necessarily true. Hispanic people can be here legally and many are. But I agree with MoFF that the federal government's inaction isn't helping.
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    I've seen Irish illegals, Chinese illegals, legal hispanic immigrants of multiple extractions, etc.......

    Again, what does an illegal immigrant look like?

    The Federal government's inaction does not justify extra-constitutional measures, especially when there are Constitutional solutions.
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    I have a friend who is about the whitest person you could meet and he is technically here illigally. He was born in England and his grandfather kidnapped him and brought him to the US. By the time anything was done England didn't want to take him and the US didn't want to let him work. He is over 21 and has been dealing with paperwork processing since he turned 18.
    The process isnt easy. Hes been in this country since the age of 4 and is finding things difficult even with family resources in both places. I can't immagine how hard it would be for a non-english speaking person with no family to help them and no money. I don't think rounding up illigals is the answer and I don't think making the process harder is the answer either. If they can prove their willingness to adopt our language, pass some tests in that regard and find a job then they should be allowed at least part time residency.
    There is no way to visually spot an "illigal". They tried that in the late 1800s and it caused a lot of bloodshed and heartache. Id like to think civilization has advanced a bit since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    They are all over the place like flies, even here in upper Ohio they work in the nursery not far from where I live.


    And while we are at it lets revoke the anker baby crap already. If the baby is born here fine, it can stay but mom and dad, grandma and 15 cousins who don't speak English go home already. Baby can be adopted out.

    This is pretty rough language, don't you think? Comparely people to flies,
    and even saying a "anchor baby" should be separated from it's mother and
    adopted out to strangers???
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    This is pretty rough language, don't you think? Comparely people to flies,
    and even saying a "anchor baby" should be separated from it's mother and
    adopted out to strangers???
    Truly despicable as usual.
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    They come here and try to have a child so they can stay. Is that right?
    The amount of money that these people cost in Welfare, Medicaid is staggering. And we the tax payer foot the bill.
    For decent, honest Americans who work and cannot get health insurance or cannot afford health insurance it is in part because so much money is being spent on illegal alians sapping all the money through Welfare and Medicaid, CareSource.
    It is helping to crush our economy. Why are insurance rates so high, why are hospitals closing and laying people off? It is in part because all these people get free care. And they continue to have children in this country that we have to pay for probably as long as they live.
    They don't speak English, don't care to learn, why should they we are writing everything in Spanish now.
    They can't get a job, because they are illegal but they can get free health care.
    Like I said shoot them at the boarder with a taser, put them in jail and revoke the anchor baby law.
    Why are they having a baby in a foreign country without legal status and no job?? Because they get every thing for free.
    That makes the US government pretty dumb. The long and short is they are breaking the law and should be punished.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    This is pretty rough language, don't you think? Comparely people to flies,
    and even saying a "anchor baby" should be separated from it's mother and
    adopted out to strangers???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    They come here and try to have a child so they can stay. Is that right?
    How do you know that? What makes you assume that? You should not make such assumptions about people. As Lady's Human pointed out, being brown-skinned and dirty from working in the fields does not make you an illegal immigrant - many US born, native for many generations of farmers would fit that description. Farming is hard, physical labor, and involves being in the sun, and getting dirty.

    I am not saying there are no illegal immigrants among the group you are talking about, but if you are so upset about it, why not call ICE?
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    Has anybody posting in this thread actually read SB 1070?
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    Homogenous?

    Does that mean they can play soft ball?

    I live where anchor babies are par for the course.


    Anchor babies are AMERICAN CITIZENS and are allowed the privileges of such.

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