Killer Whale kills trainer

[Daisy and Delilah]

He never should have been taken out of the ocean to begin with, therein lies the problem.

Just what I want to say.

[blue]

Most of the mammals in places like Seaworld are rescued as youngsters or injured from the wild, not captured for our own amusement like in the 1800s. While Im for nature taking care of nature, places like Seaworld do allot to educate the masses, washed and unawashed alike.

[pomtzu]

Most of the mammals in places like Seaworld are rescued as youngsters or injured from the wild, not captured for our own amusement like in the 1800s. While Im for nature taking care of nature, places like Seaworld do allot to educate the masses, washed and unawashed alike.

I'm not being mean or less then compassionate, but perhaps it's time for man to not intervene in every instance, and let nature take it's natural course.

These huge mammals are not meant to be kept in a tank. Of course he was probably depressed. One could probably compare it to a person living his life in a small closet.

I remember one thing I actually learned from the movie "Free Willy". When the dorsal fin of these animals is not held up straight, and is curved or bent over, that is a sign that they are distressed, depressed, or otherwise unhealthy. Check out the fin of the whale that killed the trainer - bent over....

[Twisterdog]

I'm not being mean or less then compassionate, but perhaps it's time for man to not intervene in every instance, and let nature take it's natural course.

These huge mammals are not meant to be kept in a tank. Of course he was probably depressed. One could probably compare it to a person living his life in a small closet.

Exactly.

[Daisy and Delilah]

I would be depressed too if I were confined and made to do tricks every day. What gets me are these ignorant news people that act like the whale was just having a bad day.
DUH!!! It's their nature!!

[RICHARD]

I would be depressed too if I were confined and made to do tricks every day.

OMG!

I thought you were an fine, upstanding member here on PT!

[wombat2u2004]

Ya don't mess with wild animals !!!!

[Daisy and Delilah]

omg!

I thought you were an fine, upstanding member here on pt!

You are killin me !!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Most of the mammals in places like Seaworld are rescued as youngsters or injured from the wild, not captured for our own amusement like in the 1800s. While Im for nature taking care of nature, places like Seaworld do allot to educate the masses, washed and unawashed alike.

So show them a video of the creatures roaming free in the sea/wild like they were meant to be. Not jumping and doing tricks like a trained dog.

[pomtzu]

Another thing I find odd. The guy that was drunk and broke in to ride the whale, was found on the whale's back. If the whale had killed the guy it seems strange that he would be swimming around with him on his back. That sounds more to me like he was trying to save him by keeping him above water.

Anyone else find this strange?????

[Kirsten]

These huge mammals are not meant to be kept in a tank. Of course he was probably depressed. One could probably compare it to a person living his life in a small closet.

I absolutely agree! As much as I regret the death of his trainer, and as much as I'm feeling sorry for her loved ones, I guess this is just another proof that mankind's going way too far by using other forms of life for its own entertainment. Accidents like this should be an eye opener for future generations to treat animals with more respect.

Of course I know it's not that simple. And maybe I don't even have the right to judge as I have pets, two indoor cats, prisoners of my house, so to speak... Where's the difference? Where should the line be drawn? Is it a crime to have pets at all? Or does that go only for some special breeds? Are all zoos evil? For many years, I refused to visit any zoos, because I just thought that animals don't belong there. Meanwhile, I changed my mind a bit. In this world of ours, the natural environments for animals are fading, life in the wild is no fun for many of them. So zoos and wildlife parks may be a safer environment for some animals. And, after all, many zoos these days try to provide better, more natural enclosures for their animals. And, last but not least, zoos may have another mission: "Men are willing to protect what they know and love". By having the chance to see these beautiful animals, men will become aware of their problems and may feel the need to protect their environment, and their lives.

But no matter how you put it, in the end, you'll always come to the point that it's been our own species that brought everything out of balance. We should be ashamed of that instead of referring to us as "creation's crowning glory" (always hated that term anyway).

Incidents like the one in Orlando are reminders to us to reconsider the ways we're treating this planet and everything/everyone on it.

Kirsten

[pomtzu]

Good post Kirsten. There are so many variables, that there really is no black or white, but common sense should prevail. Unfortunately, it doesn't most of the time.

Our pets - dogs and cats mostly - are domesticated - and can't really be classed with the animals we see in zoos or preserves and parks. I really believe that they are happy and safest where they are.

Many places for the "wild" animals now are so much more suited than the zoo environment. They have acres upon acres to run free and safely be enclosed within the confines of a given area, and people can ride thru and view them in a more natural setting, and they can be maintained to be healthy and well adjusted at the same time.

However - how do you give a mammoth creature like a killer whale a safe and comfortable place to live in confinement?? I don't believe it's possible, and it should never be done. Man is sacrificing this animal's health and well being for their own pleasures, and in turn he must be ready to suffer the consequences that will, and have already, come with it.

[lizbud]

However - how do you give a mammoth creature like a killer whale a safe and comfortable place to live in confinement?? I don't believe it's possible, and it should never be done. Man is sacrificing this animal's health and well being for their own pleasures, and in turn he must be ready to suffer the consequences that will, and have already, come with it.

This idea is a reality now. From the article Grace posted. We should
probably keep the whales in coastal Sanctuaries described here. A much
better enviroment for them.


"Tilikum has spent more than a quarter of a century swimming in circles, in a space that critics say would be equivalent to keeping a human being in a bathtub. Would you get resentful, angry, maybe even a little rageful and psychotic if you were kept in a bathtub-sized tank forced to swim in circles for more than 25 years?

The time has come to free Tilikum. Brazil and Chile are just two countries that have created huge coastal sanctuaries, some running thousands of miles, where whales like Tilikum can return to an active life, one in which they can frolic and explore. This is how nature intended these creatures to live. "

[Catlady711]

Just saw on the news yesterday that one of the trainers sisters is a dentist.

She used to work for my dentist at one time and did one of my fillings a few years ago. Dr. Frogameni was a very nice lady, my sympathies to her and the rest of the family.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?se...rld&id=7297588

[pomtzu]

This idea is a reality now. From the article Grace posted. We should
probably keep the whales in coastal Sanctuaries described here. A much
better enviroment for them.


"Tilikum has spent more than a quarter of a century swimming in circles, in a space that critics say would be equivalent to keeping a human being in a bathtub. Would you get resentful, angry, maybe even a little rageful and psychotic if you were kept in a bathtub-sized tank forced to swim in circles for more than 25 years?

The time has come to free Tilikum. Brazil and Chile are just two countries that have created huge coastal sanctuaries, some running thousands of miles, where whales like Tilikum can return to an active life, one in which they can frolic and explore. This is how nature intended these creatures to live. "

Yes - I understand that there are coastal sanctuaries, and that is all well and good. However what I was referring to, is the confinement of the animals in a park setting, where people come to see them perform. There is no safe and humane way to do this, and unfortunately, these animals will probably continue to be exploited for the almighty dollar that they bring in to these parks.