Karen,

The joke was funny. My ancestry is Welsh, and the kind of jibes I get when I tell people that are certainly not for this board - and ya know what, they are funny too!

But the thread went beyond a joke, didn’t it, when we use the joke as an excuse to start venting our frustrations about particular groups of people. Hear me out on that one.

I’m sorry I appear so disruptive and I appreciate the fact that you shouldn‘t have to keep pacifying threads like this.

I fight my own corner. I use metaphors that people don’t like. Boo hiss me.

RICHARD,

Hmm, I can’t find the part where I said appearances meant anything. Given a choice between a secluded life in a lab synthesising peculiar chemicals, and a life pouting and posing, I’d gather up my brains and run. I turned down 3 modelling contracts this past year, because I do not value myself in that way. Not that you will think anything of that. But if it helps me to explain what I mean (which I find that these days you find difficult to understand), then sobeit.

I never claim to be holier than thou. I put that down to perhaps leeching some morals from my parents.

What do you know of my parents or upbringing anyway? Good grief.

I do find people can act in a pathetic manner, and I do mock those who try to discredit me. The difference is, I’m perfectly happy to then agree with, or have a laugh with, those people in another situation. That applies fully to Mr Delightful, the OP of this thread, even though he evidently has no such regard for me. I don’t forget the nastiness people have shown me, but I am happy to accept that they, or I, will grow and change.

Friend or enemy, I will pick you up on something I believe is wrong. Friend or enemy, I will let you be otherwise.

But I see how it is. Perhaps grudge was a strong choice of word for what is, after all, nothing more than online dialogue. Call it what you will, then. I have sided with Sara on plenty of occasions whilst she was disagreeing with you, and I expect you saw that as me trying to be some sort of wannabe. I’m firm in my opinion and don’t hesitate to spit at people I think are being disrespectful. You don’t like that. That is your business.

I don’t need you to evaluate my personality, qualities and weaknesses, for by your own admission, you do not know me. Same as you, I log off PT, get up, and go live life.