Obama proposes longer school day, shorter summer breaks

[Marigold2]

Iran


Iran is another nation in the northern hemisphere with a school year similar to European countries. Students in Iran go to school for 10 months a year, or about 200 active days, from September to June. The average number of students per classroom is 27. From ages 5 to 18, boys and girls are educated separately. Girls typically have female teachers, while boys are taught by men. Religious study in Iran is required. Men and women do study together at the university level–by 2006, over half of all university students in Iran were women.

Beginning at age 5, all students must pass a yearly exam in order to move to the next grade level. Students in primary school learn about hygiene, basic math and science, reading, and study skills. Because many schools are in remote areas or do not have the money for such things as libraries, resourcefulness is necessary. For example, mobile libraries trundle across Iran to bring books to more than 4,000 children in 40 different schools. Each bus has two librarians and around 3,000 books. Students tend to get very excited when they hear the engine of the library bus coming their way.
Japan


Most Japanese schools run on a trimester schedule. The academic year begins in April and ends the following March, with breaks for summer, winter and spring separating the three terms. Uniforms are required and there are extensive rules for hair styles, shoes, socks, skirt length, make-up, accessories, and more.

In each classroom, the average number of students is 29 with five or six computers to share between them. Students in Japan study academic subjects, such as Japanese language, math, reading, social studies, music, and art, and they also receive moral education. Moral education involves teaching students about health and safety, living a disciplined life, courtesy, understanding and confidence, public manners, and environmental awareness.
Kenya


The school year in this southern-hemisphere nation is divided into three terms, each 13 weeks long, with one-month breaks in between. School days are from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Uniforms are mandatory in government-run schools. Most classrooms have about thirty students in them.

Many schools provide lunch. Because Kenya is experiencing severe economic and environmental hardships, some students save all or part of their lunch to share with their families. Students study the Kiswahili language, English, math, science, music, history, civics, and geography, and receive religious instruction.


Mexico

[Marigold2]

Mexico


The school year in Mexico runs from September to June. Students go to school Monday through Friday, and have elective classes on Saturdays. Students are required to wear uniforms for primaria (elementary school) and secondaria (middle school). School days are divided into two sessions, one for the morning and one for the afternoon.

In each classroom, there are about 30 students who must share three computers. Students learn Spanish, math, art, and physical education. Other subjects are integrated into courses called environmental knowledge. These include the natural sciences, history, geography, civics, reading, writing, and oral expression.
Nigeria


The school year in Nigeria runs from January to December. The year is divided into three semesters with a month off in between each semester. Students must wear uniforms, as well as obey rules for hair, jewelry, and accessory restrictions.

There are about 40 students in each classroom in Nigeria. There they will learn one of the three main languages (Hausa, Yoruba, or Ibo), math, English, social studies, health and physical education, religious instruction, agriculture, and home economics.
North Korea


Students in North Korea must attend school for 11 years, beginning at age 5. Students must wear uniforms provided by the government, and many students receive room and board from their government.

Students study music, art, math, the Korean language, social education. Social education includes studying about the former leader Kim Il Song, and “Communist Morality.” In later years they learn about the policies of the communist party. Social education also provides students with a controlled environment in which to learn so they are protected from “bad or unplanned influences.”

[Marigold2]

Russia


The school year in Russia runs from the first of September to late May. Students attend class from 8:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. No uniforms are required; students are instead encouraged to dress warmly. Students remain together in the same class from grades one to ten. Each classroom has about 16 students.

Tenth grade is the last year of mandatory education. Eleventh and 12th grades offer optional paths, either to vocational schools to learn trade skills or to continue to study for university entrance exams. Students in grades one to ten study Russian, math, reading, natural sciences, music, art, and physical education.
South Korea


The school year in South Korea typically runs from March to February. The year is divided into two semesters (March to July and September to February). School days are from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., but many stay later into the evening. In addition, students help clean up their classroom before leaving. Most students remain in the same room while their teachers rotate throughout the day. Each room has about thirty students with ten computers for them to share.

After 5 p.m. students have a short dinner at home, or eat at school, before study sessions or other activities begin in the evening. Students attend school Monday to Friday, with some Saturday classes scattered throughout the year. Their classes cover the Korean language, math, science, physical education, social studies, moral education, music, fine and practical arts. In third grade students begin receiving English instruction for two hours a week.

[Lilith Cherry]

The average class size in China is nearer to 75 than 21 the uniforms are NOT provided free and many country schools have sand trays instead of paper to write on! I do not know where you got this information but it is mostly propaganda and sadly not true

I am not knocking you Marigold, but I know this from broad experience having taught here since 1992. I am at a technical college presently which has classes of 80 - so many that some have to sit on the floor as there are not enough desks let alone computers!

[Alysser]

School from 8-5 is not bad? School from 8 to 6 (for me anyway) is more like it. An hour for homework, haven't we had enough school that day as it is? It takes me MUCH longer then a freakin' hour to do my homework most of the time. I've been up till 3 AM doing homework on Sunday nights. Maybe I did procrastinate a bit but it still would've taken me like 4-5 hours to complete. HW isn't my cup of tea, but I do it anyway, and I do all of it - especially when it's to be graded. That doesn't even begin to include studying. Studying for AP history alone takes me 2 to 3 hours every time I had a major test. It might not sound that bad to you guys, but then again you aren't students anymore.

This is coming from a high school junior.

[Lady's Human]

Okay, guys, this proposal just isn't going to happen for a number of reasons.

1) Budget. More classroom hours=more pay for teachers. Their salaries are based on an expected number of hours in the classroom. Increase the hours, the pay increases.

a) Facilities budgets: Increase the time in school, increases the time the facilities are in use. In turn it increases the maintenance budget.

b) Transportation budgets: More days=more bus trips=more maintenance and fuel costs.

c) School meal budgets: self explanatory, but if the kids are going to be in school past 4 PM, plan on eating dinner there. Given the hour +/- bus trip to and from the school, the lunch would have to expand from just lunch to breakfast, lunch and dinner.

2) Increased strain on personnel: increase hours, decrease off time=poor performance, unless you increase the personnel proportionally with the time increase, which leads to a budget explosion.

3) Parents, like me, who would tell the school board to stuff it if they decided the kids were going to be in school for 9+ hours. Ain't happening. I've already had discussions with the school administration about their curriculum, I would have no issue discussing this in a school board meeting.



The story is old, hasn't been heard from since the original speech, and is really a non-starter.


Marigold, may I ask where you pulled that article from? It's overly rosy in its outlook, sounds like someone has been drinking the koolaide of a special interest group or 20. More hours in school won't fix anything. More days in school won't fix anything.

More involved parents and less intrusive school policies would work wonders. Get back to teaching academics, get the hell out of the business of teaching morals and social programs in school, and leave parenting to the parents. That's my job, not Society's.

[Catlady711]

Sports are great but not if the child cannot read or write, sports should never come before grades. That however is what it has come too. And that is one reason our kids are not doing as well as those in other countries.

Get back to teaching academics, get the hell out of the business of teaching morals and social programs in school, and leave parenting to the parents. That's my job, not Society's.

Agree TOTALLY with both of you!!


Sadly our schools here are so sports focused, that they've built a new track, olympic sized pool, and a new football field but kids are still having to share books and some of those books are so old the kid's parents names are written in them. If they so much as talk about charging more for sports, limiting the number of sports a child can play in one year, or cutting things back in general, the parents get in a huge uproar.

In comparing my education to my husbands, he was taught ALOT more about history and historical figures than I was. In our school math was no longer a required class after 9th grade, my husband was required to take math all the way through H.S. Our school thought it was a wonderful idea to teach careers. The only thing they offered was white collar, high paying, desk job type careers and to work on the school paper you had to be an honor student, it wasn't an elective class.

I've also noticed children from other countries tend to be taught two languages from a very young age. Our schools won't even let you take the language classes until 9th or 10th grades.