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    Randi,

    I read thru the article and there are a few points that the writer seems to have missed.

    No mention of the lawsuits for meds, implants and procedures that go wrong.

    A good percentage of the techs, nusrses and docs are foreign born and educated.

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    Innovation in health care are often stifled by lawsuits because 3 people out of 100,000 have some side effect or die from the treatment.


    I do not know if you get the commercials on TV about a new medicine to treat nail fungus and at the end the announcer says that taking the medicine will cause 7 or 8 side effects that may make you SICKER than the original malady.

    The current regime in control makes it sound like the problems with healthcare will magically disappear with a new law/bill.

    The system has to be reformed by first controlling the costs of treatment and materials. People refuse to understand this and think that any opposition to the president's push to get HIS idea for healthcare enacted is racist or anti Obama.

    These ideas show the desperation and the unwillingness to look at the whole picture, It's far easier to making the topic into a political struggle than it is to look out for the people that need to have any kind of health care.


    Don't fall for the media horse crap about health care reform.

    The writer also makes the assumption that we do not have the "world's greatest" heathcare.

    I have to say we have the best facilities and the best treatment options, the problem is with the ability to provide those services and facilities to everyone here in the states.


    The rest of the world have their systems in place and would have the same kind of outrage and problems trying to implement a change to those programs, just like we are going thru.

    I do agree that the money making part of the system in the U.S. is part of the problem, so he did write the truth about that.

    The real danger and cost to health care here in the United States are the people who have no qualms about letting a bunch of AH politicians determine the future of medicine.

    In essence we are giving them a blank check to determine what is best for us.

    It's like getting a prostate check from a homeless person off the street.
    You pay for the exam, get the exam and have invested in a bottle of booze to keep the drunk, drunk.

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    Thank you for the offer, Phred - although I have to decline. I'm getting too old and lazy.

    Richard, we don't do all these lawsuits over here, doctors get it right the first time. ..... No, of course, sadly, mistakes happen, and people do get a lot of money if something goes wrong.

    As far as I know, we don't have a lot of foreign doctors here, but they ARE looking for some. I don't know how well educated they are, compared to ours, but if they're not, I'm sure they'll get the proper training here.

    The danger of the American health system is that a lot of people think only about themselves! We all should do more to help others. It helps us all and therefore helps you too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Randi View Post
    Thank you for the offer, Phred - although I have to decline. I'm getting too old and lazy.

    Richard, we don't do all these lawsuits over here, doctors get it right the first time. ..... No, of course, sadly, mistakes happen, and people do get a lot of money if something goes wrong.
    I just passed over a story where a lawsuit against the tobacco company was settled for I don't know how many millions of dollars.

    You can be assured that if you bring a lawsuit against any company for a med you were given for an illness and even if the case does not go to trial the company will settle out of court in order not to have a judgement go against them.

    http://www.prweb.com/releases/Travel...web3111644.htm

    wow!

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    Those who want to use fear -- say things like "now women under 40 will not be allowed to have mammograms!" also like to talk about how great our healthcare is now.

    As if pretty offices make for quality healthcare. The objective measures of healthcare - life expectancy, infant mortality, etc. - the US consistently lags.

    I have to laugh when I read this statement too...

    The current regime in control makes it sound like the problems with healthcare will magically disappear with a new law/bill.
    Talk about horse crap? I have NEVER heard anyone in the current administration say that.

    But then...I know it is an administration not a regime...

    We need to focus on facts - not the hyperbolic hysterical horse crap people make up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    We need to focus on facts - not the hyperbolic hysterical horse crap people make up.

    AMEN!!!!

    So, how do we pay for it? Did you happen to see the article the NYT had today? The one about our debt and its intrest?
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