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    YAY!!!!!!!

    I just heard that you do not need a mammogram if you are under 40!

    Does this mean that they have cured cancer in young women?


    I don't believe in stats that companies/news orgs put out so.......
    Take half the population of the U.S.(women)-Say half of the that is under 40?

    Now, that's about 80 million? How many are going to take the advice of the government and pass up the chance to keep them alive if they do have a yearly mammogram?


    So what's next on the menu?

    NO paps?, no prostate checks? No preventative checkups?

    Remember this topic in a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    YAY!!!!!!!

    I just heard that you do not need a mammogram if you are under 40!

    You are incorrect. That is not the announcement that came out this week.

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    TFYS.


    WASHINGTON - Women should continue getting regular mammograms starting at age 40, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Wednesday, moving to douse confusion caused by a task-force recommendation two days earlier.

    Sebelius issued her statement following a government panel's recommendation on Monday, that said most women don't need mammograms in their 40s and should get one every two years starting at 50.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34019898/ns/health-cancer/

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    TFYS - I have no idea what that means but I am sure it is unpleasant.

    There was nothing about women under 40 not needing mammograms.

    Currently mammograms are not recommended for women under 40 unless there is an exceptional medical reason.

    The issue is women between 40 and 50 as you subsequently correctly quoted.

    Twisiting the truth to make something hysterical is not constructive. Your original statement was incorrect.

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    Probably some newscaster shortening the story to a 'sound bite' - they seem to like to do that, like we have a shorter attention span than a gnat.

    Richard, you're not female, so I wouldn't expect you to know this. But women under age 40 are only suggested to get mammograms if they have certain high risk factors. Of course any woman of any age can get one, if their doctor recommends it. But until now, one thing about turning 40 was that it now meant you were supposed to schedule an annual mammogram, even if you have no history of cancer in the family or other risk factors. Turning 40 was seen as reason enough. Breast cancer can hit any person, male or female, and there are even cases in young girls now. Men do get breast cancer, and it is a double burden for them, because everyone thinks it's a "woman" thing, so they are sometimes afraid to even tell people.

    The study in the news suggested that women 40 and over do not need an ANNUAL mammogram, as was previously suggested. However, I will still ask my doctor, I normally schedule mine after I have had my annual physical, which is next week. I wouldn't mind skipping a year, IF she says so. The US Health and Human Services department, though is speaking out against that panel, and still recommending annual exams. Like I said, I'm gonna ask my doc next week. Mammograms are NOT fun, but if she says I should, I will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Probably some newscaster shortening the story to a 'sound bite' - they seem to like to do that, like we have a shorter attention span than a gnat.

    Richard, you're not female, so I wouldn't expect you to know this.

    I do have an honorary degree in Womanology from La Escuela de Golpes Duros and have dressed as a woman on Special Occasions.

    I can cook, clean, scrub and sort darks and whites before washing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    I do have an honorary degree in Womanology from La Escuela de Golpes Duros and have dressed as a woman on Special Occasions.

    I can cook, clean, scrub and sort darks and whites before washing.

    I just can not iron.
    Trust me, you may the degree, but there are some things about being a woman you'd probably rather not know. Paul can cook, clean, scrub and is more meticulous about laundry even than I, and he's all male. In fact, my brothers were both taught to sew and cook, just as much as my sister and I were. Ma and Pa both cooked when given the chance, so there was no sense in segregating the next generation of cooks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    ... But women under age 40 are only suggested to get mammograms if they have certain high risk factors. Of course any woman of any age can get one, if their doctor recommends it. But until now, one thing about turning 40 was that it now meant you were supposed to schedule an annual mammogram, even if you have no history of cancer in the family or other risk factors. Turning 40 was seen as reason enough.

    The study in the news suggested that women 40 and over do not need an ANNUAL mammogram, as was previously suggested.
    You are quite right about the study Karen, but I have to disagree with one thing you said.

    Probably some newscaster shortening the story to a 'sound bite' - they seem to like to do that, like we have a shorter attention span than a gnat.
    I heard/saw this story reported on numerous reports - radio, tv and internet and not once did I hear anyone say/write or suggest that...

    "women under 40 do not need mammograms".

    Did you?

    Of course, I've never heard anyone suggest that women under 40 do need mammograms.

    So what does TFYS mean?

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    The reports I read said this group was now saying the 40-49 age group didn't need the mammograms. I was told to get a baseline at 40 or right before 40 and then one every 2 years was what they said back then, my doctor said I don't care what kaiser recommends I want you to go every year.

    They also say breast self exams were not necessary, that discounted all the other things they said as far as I was concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    So what does TFYS mean?

    I'll ask my teenagers and get back to you I usually prefer normal english.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post

    So what does TFYS mean?

    Richard won't spell it out b/c he would get a rap on the knuckles from
    the Mayor. "The F*** You Say" according to the urban dictionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    TFYS.
    Thats called bringing the FUNNAY!!!
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    10 hours of debate? ONLY? On the 'most important legislation in a hundred years.' Vote at 8pm, on Saturday night?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...19-717535.html


    Bribes to get votes? (Shocking, I know)

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/200...care-vote.html


    Unreal...

    Then there is the 2.5 trillion dollar question... How is it Constitutional for the Federal Government to force me to buy something or put me in jail if I don't?

    This is not about health care... This is about the "redistributive change" the President has talked about in his past.

    Oh, don't forget the taxes... This will be GREAT for business.

    http://www.atr.org/userfiles/111809p...eid%282%29.pdf
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    One has to subscribe to the WSJ to read the entire article - to continue reading, subscribe now.

    I wonder if Harry Reid is hurrying so much because he's afraid of leaving no legacy, good or bad, when he gets defeated next fall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    One has to subscribe to the WSJ to read the entire article - to continue reading, subscribe now.
    Thats right... Poo. I will try to get a summary up later... Gotta hit the road now.

    I wonder if Harry Reid is hurrying so much because he's afraid of leaving no legacy, good or bad, when he gets defeated next fall
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