** Shootings just Happened in Orlando Florida Now**

[Puckstop31]

I will never understand why the object used by the criminal is blamed before the criminal.

If we banned or destroyed everything dangerous in the hands of a crazy person.... You would only be allowed pillows and bread. But then again, bread can make you fat...


For the 1,457,439th time.... You can be free or you can be safe (hows that gun control thing working out for ya UK?).

I pick free.

[Puckstop31]

I am free. I am safe. I don't need guns to be either.

It is very clear how "the gun thing" is working out here in the United States. Fort Hood, Columbine, Orlando...and on and on and on...

Stop the madness.

Don't let people change the subject.

Ask WHY does anyone need a COP KILLER gun???

Why does ANYONE need bullets that pierce the body armor worn by the cops.

And WHY do groups like the NRA support these things???

Don't forget the millions law abiding gun owners and guns that did NOT harm anyone today.

Its not about NEED. Its about RIGHT. Does anybody "need" a high capacity magazine firearm? Maybe not. Is it worth the slippery slope that happens should we start banning certain guns because they are scary? No.

Love it, hate it.... Spin it with emotional BS all you want. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is about LIBERTY and the PEOPLES right to protect it for themselves. Read any history book about a fascist/communist/nazi/despotic country. Whats one of the first things that happens?

A armed person is a citizen. A disarmed person is a subject.

Yes, I get where you are coming from about the "cop killer" thing. But, why say melt down "A" gun? Why not "a semi-automatic handgun"?

Freudian slip?

[Puckstop31]

Tell me....

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Should we blame the guns or the coward (terrorist?) who used them?

How VERY different would this have been had the soldiers (citizens) been armed?

[blue]

More of the victims are alive because the Shooter used a "cop killer" gun.

Armour piercing rounds are not available to citizens and are highly controlled with LEOs and the military. The 5.7 round is not much more then a .22 Magnum IIRC.

Less people would have been shot if more people were carrying.

[Puckstop31]

Here they go...watch them twist and turn as they defend COP KILLERS...used this time to kill 13 people...

COP KILLERS...they defend.

And they call it "Freedom"...

It would be a joke if not so very, very sad.

Stop the madness.

What IS a "cop killer", to you?


Again... An emotional responce, catered to people who already agree with you.

ES... Its surprising to see a person as smart as you to become so emotionally unglued.

When you are ready to talk facts.... Holler.

[blue]

No spin, its a fact that if the shooter had used a more powerful firearm more people would have died. The FN 5.7 isnt the only handgun with a 20 or 30 round magazine. If more people there where armed less people would have been shot, thats not fact but at least its debatable.

Handgun bans and gun control have worked really well in Chicago and DC<<<SARCASM.

[sparks19]

Change the subject?

the subject was about the events that happened in orlando... not your feelings on "cop killers"

so if we are to stick to the subject....

It makes me sick that people take their unhappiness out on others in such a way. you want to kill yourself go nuts but don't drag others into your misery just because you are angry with the world because things didn't go the way you planned.

I will never blame anything or anyone other than the person who committed these crimes. the crime is the fault of the person who committed it. would it be BETTER if it were a bomb? a knife? a brutal beating? would you be happier if only one person died? I wouldn't... it would be sad and tragic no matter what and NOTHING about the murder of an innocent person is going to change that

[Puckstop31]

Bob and weave. Never answer the question.

Hmmmm... Reminds me of a thread that somebody recently deleted.

WHY does ANYONE need a semi-autromatic handgun...

Because the criminal out there has one. Because I like to target shoot with out reloading for 15 shots... Because I CAN.


Now, be a mindless record and say the only thing you have been saying, in defiance of logic.


I am still waiting for you to submit some facts about guns, gun control and crime.

They will not answer the question. Because there is no answer.

Instead, they will attack the person who asks the question.

Dip, dodge, dive, dip and DODGE!!!!!

[RICHARD]

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_13726033


I am taking this to my masonry class for extra credit, you know, like a current event!

The number of unregistered bricks in Cah Lee Fuh Nee Ah is scary.

And this FW could not even use the knife with out stabbing himself.

[sparks19]

sorry if I missed it...

they did catch the shooter? alive?

and is there a confirmed number of injuries and deaths yet?



I must say... it does bring me a small smile that the man that did this is alive and (hopefully) will face a lengthy prison sentence. Perhaps he will see what it's like to have others take their anger out on him in a physical way.

[Karen]

sorry if I missed it...

they did catch the shooter? alive?

and is there a confirmed number of injuries and deaths yet?



I must say... it does bring me a small smile that the man that did this is alive and (hopefully) will face a lengthy prison sentence. Perhaps he will see what it's like to have others take their anger out on him in a physical way.

Which one? Texas, yes, the shooter is injured but alive. Florida is also alive, and in custody.

[Grace]

sorry if I missed it...

they did catch the shooter? alive?

and is there a confirmed number of injuries and deaths yet?

Yes, they did get the Florida shooter - hiding out at his mother's house. One dead, 5 injured.

He was fired from that engineering firm two years ago. His financial status now is awful - bankruptcy, etc. When a reporter asked him why he did it, he replied: "Because they left me to rot."