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    You're an electrician in Alaska.

    Your entire job is based on US Government funding electric power in rural areas, funding the Alaskan Pipeline, and other pork directed to Alaska.

    You don't like .gov, but .gov is the entity which created your job.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    You're an electrician in Alaska.

    Your entire job is based on US Government funding electric power in rural areas, funding the Alaskan Pipeline, and other pork directed to Alaska.

    You don't like .gov, but .gov is the entity which created your job.
    Im a Residential Wireman, how did the .gov create my job? Ive worked in Anchorage, Wasilla, and Palmer, none of those cities get power from the state or .gov.

    The Alyeska Pipeline was privately funded, there is no Alaskan Pipeline, yet. The Alaskan Pipeline is something we will be financing because .gov wont, or hasnt guaranteed us the funds to make it happen. Besides, the construction of a NG pipeline should fall for us to fund anyway, it keeps .gov out of our profits.

    Im qualified to work on houses, Ive never worked on a .gov funded housing.
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    Without the grants from the federal Rural Electrification commission, there would be no residential wiring in AK for you to work on.

    Never worked on .gov funded housing? I guess no house you've ever worked on was funded by fannie mae, freddie mac, a VA loan or a rural housing loan.

    Your profits? Planning on building a NG pipeline yourself?

    The Aleskya pipeline may have been privately funded, but also had a large amount of federal involvement. Without federal intervention, the pipeline would have had to purchase the land the pipeline is on. Instead, they lease the land for a sum of $104,000 per year. Not a bad deal for the amount of acreage involved.

    Without Federal intervention, and a special law enacted to bypass the legal challenges to the pipeline, it is doubtful that the pipeline would have ever been constructed at all.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Without the grants from the federal Rural Electrification commission, there would be no residential wiring in AK for you to work on.
    Without people buying houses there would be no residential wiring. Anchorage, Wasilla and Palmer dont fall under FREC.

    Never worked on .gov funded housing? I guess no house you've ever worked on was funded by fannie mae, freddie mac, a VA loan or a rural housing loan.
    I never worked for FM, FM, the VA,or any RHL. I worked for electrical contractors.

    Your profits? Planning on building a NG pipeline yourself?
    All Alaskans recieve profits from the sale of our minirals, its only right that we should fund it.

    The Aleskya pipeline may have been privately funded, but also had a large amount of federal involvement. Without federal intervention, the pipeline would have had to purchase the land the pipeline is on. Instead, they lease the land for a sum of $104,000 per year. Not a bad deal for the amount of acreage involved.

    Without Federal intervention, and a special law enacted to bypass the legal challenges to the pipeline, it is doubtful that the pipeline would have ever been constructed at all.


    If the Feds had lived up to their end of the deal during Alaska's statehood we wouldnt need any Fed or .gov intervention.
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    You worked for contractors, who were paid by....................

    finance agreements.............

    who were more than likely funded through the above listed alphabet soup of federal agencies who were created to fund private home ownership.

    No mortgages=no houses=no jobs for residential electrical contractors.

    As to funding the Alaska NG pipeline....There's almost $5 million in the current budget for personnel to oversee the project.......doens't sound much like an "Alaska Only" project. Further more, this quote from one of your Fed. Reps makes it sound like a pork project:

    Rep. Jay Ramras, R-Fairbanks, heard the same message.

    “My wish is that it would be turned into a giant public works project,” he said. “I’m concerned if it’s left up to the economics of the project, it is probably not going to happen. It’s quite doubtful.”


    Go Alaska.............nice to see you're all so independent......oops, maybe not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    You worked for contractors, who were paid by....................

    finance agreements.............
    Realators, and Contractors paid my bosses. Where the homeowners got the funding is no concern of yours or mine.

    who were more than likely funded through the above listed alphabet soup of federal agencies who were created to fund private home ownership.

    No mortgages=no houses=no jobs for residential electrical contractors.

    As to funding the Alaska NG pipeline....There's almost $5 million in the current budget for personnel to oversee the project.......doens't sound much like an "Alaska Only" project. Further more, this quote from one of your Fed. Reps makes it sound like a pork project:

    Rep. Jay Ramras, R-Fairbanks, heard the same message.

    “My wish is that it would be turned into a giant public works project,” he said. “I’m concerned if it’s left up to the economics of the project, it is probably not going to happen. It’s quite doubtful.”


    Go Alaska.............nice to see you're all so independent......oops, maybe not so much.
    Go pound sand.

    If Ak was left to the original agreement, Jay Ramras would be sucking on an exaushst pipe instead of wasting his breath.
    I have a HUGE SIG!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
    Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.

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    Realators, and Contractors paid my bosses. Where the homeowners got the funding is no concern of yours or mine.
    Given that you're proclaiming how independent you are from federal funding, it is a part of the discussion. I brought this into the discussion as much of the mortgage industry and much of the construction industry is either backed or directly funded with federal money. That being the case, you are being paid with money backed by taxpayers or funded directly from tax money.

    As to pounding sand, well, when the facts don't support your argument, ignore them and resort to invective.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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