Government run health care

[Edwina's Secretary]

Men recieving paternity leave is just plan silly. Having a baby is a choice, it is not a disease that is thrown upon one such as cancer. One can choose to save money for three or six months to stay home with the baby. Employers should not have to pay for the man staying home. If a women wants a baby she too should plan ahead and save up vacation time and money so she can add onto her maternity leave. Small employers cannot afford to stay in business otherwise.

Not to worry! Except in California both maternity and paternity is unpaid. And small employers (less than 50 people in a 75 mile area) do not have to grant maternity or paternity leave at all!

Thank goodness, right!

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If a male can be required to have insurance for in vitro fertilization, is it really hard to believe he wouldnt get paternity leave under .gov health care?

[Edwina's Secretary]

If a male can be required to have insurance for in vitro fertilization, is it really hard to believe he wouldnt get paternity leave under .gov health care?

Yes.

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Really, why?

Edit: LH, from what Ive read in Mass they do get IVF coverage.

[Lady's Human]

Again, group plans are written to cover multiple contingencies.

They are not written for individuals, and thank god insurance plans aren't written for individuals. No one would be able to afford insurance coverage.

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Again, group plans are written to cover multiple contingencies.

They are not written for individuals, and thank god insurance plans aren't written for individuals. No one would be able to afford insurance coverage.

Thats .gov thinking.

[Lady's Human]

That has nothing to do with .gov. It's how insurance is written, period.

Roll your eyes all you want, reality is reality.

[Lady's Human]

Men aren't given insurance for IVF.

The Group Policy that the man is a part of may or may not cover IVF. For instance, the BC/BS plan for FEHB includes reproductive services in general, which, being that I'm part of the group, could be construed as my insurance plan covering IVF for men.

All depends on how you parse the words, or, in a more famous statement, it all depends on what the meaning of "is" is.

Paternity leave is granted under FMLA, regardless of health insurance status, and as ES has stated, there is no requirement that it be paid leave.