I'm almost at the end of my rope!!!! **Update**

[Catlady711]

Just thought I'd add an update for any interested.

It's a year later now. I did everything, more litterboxes, different litterboxes, different litterbox locations, new urine remover, different litter, and TONS of urinalysis tests on all 7 of the cats.

6 of the cats have problems with urinary crystals and occasional infections, the solution has been to put those cats on Hills C/D food, and do a urinalysis occasionally to check for infections, and treat with antibiotics those with infections.

The peeing slowed down but didn't stop. I mean I had pee on my fridge, my stove, my counters, my microwave, the walls, two sections of my sectional were trashed.

This all despite cleaning the litterboxes 5-6 times a day, and constantly putting cats in the box anytime they sniffed anything, and using generous amounts of Nature's Miracle. I was having panic attacks over it and had to take tranquilizers.

When I finally reached the point I could do nothing else I took my most suspected pee-er to work with me (Cami) and she had to live in a cage for 2 weeks.

Aside from finding some old pee spots we went those whole 2 weeks with no pee! That verified that she was my only active pee-er. And she used her box in her cage 100% of the time.

I brought Cami home after 2 weeks and put her in my spare room to see if having her noises and scent in the house would cause any peeing, or if her smelling/hearing the other cats would cause peeing.

So far it's been about 6 weeks and no pee outside the litterbox (despite Sassy having a UTI that we had to treat).

I hate having Cami shut up in a separate room, she's so lonely not being out in the main house where the activity is, but apparently she just plain doesn't get along with the male cats, particularly Bear.

I tried letting her out once and following her around constantly. It lasted about 20 minutes. The whole time she went from one spot to another that had been peed on in the past to sniff. In one area I stopped her from spraying (or at least it looked like she was going to.) The entire time she was out, Bear followed (rather stalked) her and she did not purr or seem happy until I put her back in her room again, at which point she started purring and being lovey again. I spend several blocks of time with her every day petting and playing with her and I think she sort of enjoys having my complete attention.

Sometimes certain cats just plain don't get along no matter what you do.

Now the question is, does she have to live in the spare room until Bear passes away (8-10 years) or can she be re-integrated into the house?

At this point I'm not rushing anything for fear of the peeing starting up again.

[Catty1]

Hard to say...could Bear be put on a mild tranny so he doesn't stalk her?

I am sure you have done the blacklight/deodorize the pee spots. Just a suggestion: get Bear treated (even try a mild tranny for a couple of weeks), find all the pee spots you can and neutralize them, and THEN try letting Cami out and gradually reintegrate her.

I think dealing with Bear's attitude might help. Or - he should be the one in the room. Is Cami the only one he bothers?

I am sure others here will have ideas too!

[Catlady711]

Is Cami the only one he bothers?

No, unfortunately.

All the male cats stalk and pounce on her. Bear is just the worst and most persistant one. So apparently spay/neuter doesn't help any here.

Everything was tolerable when Dusty was still alive because everyone (including Cami) pounced on her instead. Trooper that Dusty was she took it without problems until the last week when I separated her to spend her last days in peace. That's when they started turning on Cami and that's the week the peeing started.

[Catty1]

Gosh...give ALL the boys chill pills!

My take...keep Cami in a room with MAYBE another kitty that she gets along with?

Or - get Nancy Efrusy to do a reading on the gang. She's a pet psychic who proved amazingly helpful with another cat here on PT. Boo, who is owned by Laura's Babies (she's away on the boat right now).

Also, our own Brody's Mum does readings - you can PM her. Her rates are very reasonable - and the money goes directly to help animals.

[moosmom]

I have used the storage bins, like Gill, for a few years now and it is the best system I've used in a long time. The litter I use is Feline Pine pellets and it works like a charm.

[jenluckenbach]

I am proud and impressed at all the hard work you have done to try to alleviate this problem. MANY people would have given up long ago.

Some cats simply get picked on by everyone. Can't say why. But one of my fellow rescuers has the some problem. And her girl stays in her own separate room...ALWAYS.

That may end up being the best solution.

I wish you continued good luck.

[Catlady711]

I am proud and impressed at all the hard work you have done to try to alleviate this problem. MANY people would have given up long ago.

Some cats simply get picked on by everyone. Can't say why. But one of my fellow rescuers has the some problem. And her girl stays in her own separate room...ALWAYS.

That may end up being the best solution.

I wish you continued good luck.

I can't just give up on any of my kitties without trying everything within reason first.

So far it's been like 9-10 weeks and still no pee outside the box by anyone.

My mom has a theory that Cami marks because she's the only cat (other than Dusty who was first, and at one time only kitty) that came into the house as an adult. The rest of the kitties were added to the house as kittens.

Cami is bummed being away from the main activity in the house but seems calm and non stressed in her room. I discovered that she's apparently 'daddy's kitty'. It was my hubby who first found Cami, and he's the one that named her. I didn't realize how much she prefered him until the other day.

I mentioned that Cami no longer would eat any tid bits of people food I took her (she's ALWAYS been a food begger), and how she talks alot when I'm in there (not like her). I had hubby come in with me for some kitty time and she was like a whole different cat! She ate some goodies from him without hesitation and was non talkative and she paid no attention to me, only to hubby!!

Hmmm, have a cat for 4 years and never realize she's a daddy's cat. lol I should have known that too, considering she'd always get in his lap not mine, but then again several of the kitties spend alot of time in his lap because he sits still longer than I do. I guess I just never realized it was a personal preference not who sits still the longest. lol