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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post

    Who is going to pay for the trips the Obama's made to Oslo?
    That was Copenhagen, Richard. Oslo is the capital of Norway. Copenhagen is the capital of Denmark, the home of the Little Mermaid statue, made famous by Hans Christian Andersen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    That was Copenhagen, Richard. Oslo is the capital of Norway. Copenhagen is the capital of Denmark, the home of the Little Mermaid statue, made famous by Hans Christian Andersen.
    I guess to some people all Scandanavians look alike....

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    Richard, do you have any thoughts about Meg Whitman who wants to run for Governor of California?

    I ask, because I just read this by Susan Estrich.

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    I realize RICHARD is the official "California spokesperson" but I'll answer anyway. I would really, really like to support Meg Whitman. I think her business experience would be very useful in a state that is way too "anti-employer" for my taste.

    When we came here I had to take a crash course in California labor law. For example, this is one of only three states that mandates daily overtime. If a non-exempt employee does not take a meal break the company must pay a one hour penalty. Until a recent case, employers were being fined if employees did not take their rest breaks on time. Imagine talking to a sales person or the person wiating on your table who says..."I must go on my break now" and you have to start over with another employee.

    But the not voting - not being registered to vote really bothers me. I have a real problem with people who do not vote. Often as not they are the biggest complainers who know exactly how things should be fixed. But they can't be bothered to participate.

    Not declared Democratic or Republican - not a big deal. I have never declared for either party. But not even registered to vote until age 46?

    That bothers me.

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    A $1.2 million dollar goose egg for the POTUS in Copenhagen. Now maybe he can meet with McCrystal and start doing his job.
    I have a HUGE SIG!!!!



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    Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.

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    I love Meg Ryan and would vote for her any day of the week.

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    Remember that the FLOTUS went separately to Copenhagen..

    She ran up a tab too.


    Grace,
    LOL, now do you see why I need a globe????

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    I'd sugget a history book to go with that globe!

    I have to go and check who won the pool for which Hater and what time. They are predictable at least!

    Obama should not go to whatever that city is where it cold. What a waste. Olympics are terrible. He should stay and talk to the general who was involved in the cover up and abuse of Pat Tillman. Olympics are terrible. Cost too much money.

    He goes (as does the head of every country in the running)...Chicago is not selected and the Haters?

    Olympics are wonderful. Make people feel good about their city. Obama is a loser. He didn't get the Olympics.

    You guys sure do provide lots of laughs! Thanks! Now I need to go and see who won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Richard, do you have any thoughts about Meg Whitman who wants to run for Governor of California?

    I ask, because I just read this by Susan Estrich.
    Yesterday both the LA Times and the local OC paper (slightly to the right of Atila the Hun) had editorials taking her to task for failing to vote and initially refusing to offer any explanation.

    She has finally offered up that she was very busy raising her family, moving around the country for her husband's career and getting very rich (she didn't really say the last one...I helped)

    It is not playing to well but she has a while for people to forget it. Probably better for her that it came out now -- so long in advance - instead of at the last minute in the campaign.

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    CNN fact checking an SNL skit.

    Link.

    Hopefully all the idiots that latched on to Tina Fey's performance as fact, will latch on to this skit as a fact as well.

    Oh yeah, here is the CNN Link.

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    Obama not meeting with the General he appointed, a general who would resign if the CIC doesnt do His job is more irresponsable then McChrystal speaking out IMO. The same General that Congress cleared of wrong doing.

    Sorry if I am putting the lives and well being of our soldiers, above free health care, or getting fined for not having health care insurance.
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  10. Not Really...

    Not really....

    In 2007, the Army overruled a Pentagon recommendation that McChrystal be held accountable for his "misleading" actions.
    On July 14, 2008 the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform released a proposed report titled "Misleading Information from the Battlefield: The Tillman and Lynch Episodes".[28][29] The committee stated that its "investigation was frustrated by a near universal lack of recall" among "senior officials at the White House" and the military. It concluded:

    The pervasive lack of recollection and absence of specific information makes it impossible for the Committee to assign responsibility for the misinformation in Corporal Tillman’s and Private Lynch’s cases. It is clear, however, that the Defense Department did not meet its most basic obligations in sharing accurate information with the families and with the American public.

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    Fair and balanced

    From NEWSWEEK -

    A Bunch of Hypocrites?
    Several Democrats, including some closed allied to Speaker Nancy Pelosi, are the subject of ethics complaints.

    By Holly Bailey | NEWSWEEK

    Published Oct 3, 2009

    From the magazine issue dated Oct 12, 2009

    Correction (published Oct. 5, 2009): This article originally reported that Rep. John Murtha was under investigation by the House ethics committee. Rather, the committee is "reviewing," not investigating political contributions he and other House lawmakers received from the PMA Group, a lobbying firm that represented Defense interests. NEWSWEEK regrets the error.

    Nancy Pelosi likes to brag that she's "drained the swamp" when it comes to corruption in the House, but ethics problems could come back to haunt Democrats in 2010. Democrats are currently the subject of 12 of the 16 complaints pending before the House ethics committee. Two of the lawmakers under scrutiny—Reps. Jack Murtha and Charlie Rangel—have close ties to Pelosi, who has come under criticism for not asking them to resign their committee posts. Murtha, chairman of a key defense-appropriations subcommittee, is is not formally under investigation but the ethics committee is reviewing political contributions he and other House lawmakers received from lobbying firm whose clients received millions of dollars in Defense earmarks. Rangel, chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, is facing scrutiny for not fully disclosing assets. The ethics committee is also looking into ties between Rangel and a developer who leased rent-controlled apartments to the congressman, and whether Rangel improperly used his House office to raise funds for a public policy institute in his name. Rangel and Murtha deny any wrongdoing. (Another lawmaker under investigation: Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., who, according to the committee, "may have offered to raise funds" for then–Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich in exchange for the president's Senate seat—a charge Jackson denies. The panel deferred its probe at the request of the Justice Department, which is conducting its own inquiry.)

    Pelosi has said little about Rangel's ethics problems, or those involving other Democrats; a Pelosi spokesman, Brendan Daly, e-mails NEWSWEEK, "The speaker has said that [Rangel] should not step aside while the independent, bipartisan ethics committee is investigating."

    But watchdog groups, not to mention Republicans, are calling Pelosi hypocritical since Democrats won back control of the House by, in part, trashing the GOP's ethics lapses. Republicans already plan to use the ethics issue against Democrats in 2010. Though Rangel and Murtha aren't as known as Tom DeLay, the GOP poster boy for scandal in 2006, the party aims to change that: this week the House GOP plans to introduce a resolution calling on Rangel to resign his committee post. Pelosi "promised to run the most ethical Congress in history," says Ken Spain, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee, "and instead of cracking down on corruption, she promotes it." Daly responds, "Since Democrats took control of Congress, we have strengthened the ethics process."

    Find this article at http://www.newsweek.com/id/216687

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