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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4...eature=channel


    "The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth."


    Etc...

    If that is not Marxism, what is?

    Yes, I listened to the recording (and could tell where it had been edited.)

    BTW...Did you know Reagan was an anarchist? He wanted to do away with government! Anyone who believes Obama is a marxist will believe Reagan is an anarchist....

    ROTFLMAO!!!! You are really so funny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Yes, I listened to the recording (and could tell where it had been edited.)

    BTW...Did you know Reagan was an anarchist? He wanted to do away with government! Anyone who believes Obama is a marxist will believe Reagan is an anarchist....

    ROTFLMAO!!!! You are really so funny!
    Of course, attack the source. There are plenty more than this one.

    Regan wanted to LIMIT government, not eliminate it.

    Laugh it up. Spin this how you wish.... The man, on tape, speaking from his heart. You have something to counter this? Share it. If all you can do is attack the source...

    If the stimulus bills were not Marxist in nature.... If a "progressive" income tax system is not Marxist in nature.... (Only people with income over $250,000...etc...)

    Yeah... Laugh it up.
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter E Williams
    A MINORITY VIEW

    BY WALTER WILLIAMS

    RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2009



    Lying Propaganda



    Michael Moore's new film, "Capitalism: A Love Story" will be released next month. I've neither seen nor read reviews of the film, except for a short piece in the London Telegraph (9/6/09) titled "Michael Moore film calls capitalism evil." Aware of Michael Moore's previous films, I know that it will be at best a misleading story about capitalism. So let's do some defensive mental preparation, not about the film but what is and what is not capitalism.

    Capitalism is an economic system characterized by private ownership and control over the means of production. The distribution of goods and services and their prices are mainly determined by competition in a free market. Under such a system the primary job of government is to protect private property, enforce contracts and ensure rule of law.

    There has never been a pure free market capitalistic system just as there has never been a pure communist or socialist system, where there is government ownership of the means of production and each individual has equal access to society's resources. However, we can rank economies as to whether they are closer to capitalism or closer to communism or socialism. If one ranked countries according to whether they were closer to the capitalistic end of the spectrum or the socialistic or communistic end, then ranked countries according to per capita GDP and finally rank countries according to Freedom House's "Map of Freedom in the World," he would find a pattern that is by no means a coincidence. The people in those countries closer to the capitalist end of the economic spectrum have far greater income and enjoy greater human rights protections than those toward the socialist and communist end.

    According to the London Telegraph article, Moore's film features priests who say capitalism is anti-Christian by failing to protect the poor. This is pure nonsense and revealed as such by asking, "If you're an unborn spirit, condemned by God to a life of poverty but allowed to choose the country in which to be poor, would you choose a country near the communist end of the economic spectrum or the capitalist end?" If you chose the United States, you'd find that according to the government surveys, the typical "poor" American has cable or satellite TV, two color TVs, and a DVD player or VCR. He has air conditioning, a car, a microwave, a refrigerator, a stove, and a clothes washer and dryer, and whether he has health insurance or not, he is able to obtain medical care when needed. Try to find that in Cuba, Russia, China or North Korea. If we buy into the nonsense of Moore's priests, the world's poor people are incredibly stupid. Whether fleeing legally or illegally, their destination country is likely to be closer to capitalism than their departure country.

    Most of our country's serious problems can be laid at the feet of Congress and the White House and not at capitalism. Take the financial crisis. One-third of the $15 trillion of mortgages in existence in 2008 are owned, or securitized by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Ginnie Mae, the Federal Housing and the Veterans Administration. Banks didn't mind making risky loans and Wall Street buyers didn't mind buying these repackaged loans because they assumed that they would be guaranteed by the federal government: read bailout by taxpayers. Under a capitalist system, financial institutions would not have been intimidated or encouraged into making risky loans and neither would they have been bailed out if they did so.

    Social Security, Medicare and its coverage of prescription drugs have an unfunded liability that exceeds $100 trillion. When those roosters come home to roost, they will make the financial meltdown we've been though look like child's play.

    Not withstanding all of the demagoguery, it is capitalism not socialism is that made us a great country and its socialism that will be our undoing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
    Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Of course, attack the source. There are plenty more than this one.

    Regan wanted to LIMIT government, not eliminate it.

    Laugh it up. Spin this how you wish.... The man, on tape, speaking from his heart. You have something to counter this? Share it. If all you can do is attack the source...

    If the stimulus bills were not Marxist in nature.... If a "progressive" income tax system is not Marxist in nature.... (Only people with income over $250,000...etc...)

    Yeah... Laugh it up.
    Thank you...I will continue to laugh it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Thank you...I will continue to laugh it up.
    Awesome. Your lack of an answer says it all.

    YOUR man is on record confirming his belief in wealth re-distribution. You "laugh" at me.



    Weak as always ES.

    I would not offer a real answer if I were you either....
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

    - Homer Simpson


    "If the enemy opens the door, you must race in."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Awesome. Your lack of an answer says it all.

    YOUR man is on record confirming his belief in wealth re-distribution. You "laugh" at me.



    Weak as always ES.

    I would not offer a real answer if I were you either....
    How does one answer irrational statements?

    Barak Obama is my president as I am a citizen of the United States of America. He is your president as well. You think he is a marxist because he talks about redistribution of weath. I did not hear him advocate it.

    But then - that is what people like you do. If you repeat things enough some people will begin to believe. I see no evidence of "marxist" so how can I refute something that isn't there.

    Insult me all you want PS...after all - it is what you do best! And far easier than...say thinking...

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    Anti Americans at home and around the world rejoiced, danced in the streets and laughed at our misery 8 years ago. Granted some, like my brother who believed it was an inside job, grieved with the rest of us.

    Is Obama our Nero? Will he and his supporters laugh as we go down in flames?



    Link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
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    A weird dude, at best.

    Blue, I am so glad there are not many out there, who think like you do......Your thoughts scare me. Oh my gosh.

    Stay up there, in the middle of nowhere, please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasvermont View Post
    Blue, I am so glad there are not many out there, who think like you do......Your thoughts scare me. Oh my gosh.

    Stay up there, in the middle of nowhere, please!
    My tinfoil hat isnt as large or as thick as the majority of the TFHC. Im very mild in my thinking,

    There are plenty of folks in your state that are waiting to confront the current adminstration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
    Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.

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    Hey,

    If you don't know the words, just hum along!!!!!


    Mmm, mmmm, mmmmmm

    Barack Hussein Obama.

    He'll ignore the problems with Iran,
    and may send troops to Afghanistan!

    Mmm, mmm mmmmmmm!

    Barack Hussein Obama.

    Iran shoots off a pair of tactical missles
    While his foreign policy continues to fizzle!

    Mmm, mmm mmmmmmm!

    Barack Hussein Obama

    Don't question his policy, or request health care stasis
    You'll find yourself regarded as racist!!!!

    Mmm, mmm mmmmmmm!

    Barack Hussein Obama

    Who writes songs for kids?, it's a great pity.
    The song is bland, lyrics are TERRIBLE!

    Mmm, mmm mmmmmmm!

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