Politics and religion.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Democrats say South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson’s outburst during President Barack Obama’s speech to Congress is turning into a financial boon for his opponent, Rob Miller.

Miller is a former Marine and Iraq war veteran who resigned his commission to run for Congress. His campaign last year presented Wilson with the most serious challenge he’d had since winning a special election in 2001. Miller got 46 percent of the vote.

Contributions to Rob Miller's campaign fund since Baby Wilson temper tantrum.....$751,562 from 20,494 American Citizens!!

[Grace]

Interesting article by Pat Buchanan.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." - Abraham Lincoln

[Edwina's Secretary]

Interesting article but rather...one sided in his view.

I am not sure that Robert E. Lee was once a national hero or Stonewall Jackson? They were both confederate generals. Fighting to destroy the United States! National heros???

He sees newer heros (and really...the only ones he can think of after 1865 are Martin Luther King and Cesar Chavez) as replacing instead of in addition to earlier heros.

To him Christmas and Easter may have been holidays that united the country but I feel that really reinforces his "European Christian core" as he calls it.

I agree with the loss of civility in our lives but I think Mr. Buchanan is mourning the loss of his world. His experience of this country may not be the same as everyone else.

He doesn't even include rock as music that defined us!

But I find most offensive of all this statement...

One part of America loves her history, another reviles it as racist, imperialist and genocidal

I love American history - but not the fake "George Washington chopped down the cherry tree" type. I love the real American history - warts - genocide, racism and all. Fairy tales are for kids. I enjoy learning how this country has survived and prospered because of ordinary men and women who sometimes do extraordinary things.

[Grace]

Interesting article but rather...one sided in his view.

I am not sure that Robert E. Lee was once a national hero or Stonewall Jackson? They were both confederate generals. Fighting to destroy the United States! National heros???

He sees newer heros (and really...the only ones he can think of after 1865 are Martin Luther King and Cesar Chavez) as replacing instead of in addition to earlier heros.

To him Christmas and Easter may have been holidays that united the country but I feel that really reinforces his "European Christian core" as he calls it.

I agree with the loss of civility in our lives but I think Mr. Buchanan is mourning the loss of his world. His experience of this country may not be the same as everyone else.

He doesn't even include rock as music that defined us!

But I find most offensive of all this statement...


I love American history - but not the fake "George Washington chopped down the cherry tree" type. I love the real American history - warts - genocide, racism and all. Fairy tales are for kids. I enjoy learning how this country has survived and prospered because of ordinary men and women who sometimes do extraordinary things.

Yes, I did notice the slant to the right; but much of what he said concerns me. The sheer nastiness prevalent these days. Maybe it's because of my age - growing up in a kinder, simpler world where politeness was a virtue

As for Robert E. Lee - he was a national hero. He was asked to command the Northern troops, but could not betray his home state of Virginia. His father was a hero of the Revolutionary War, and Robert stood out during the Mexican War. He commanded West Point for a few years during the 1850s.

[Edwina's Secretary]

But at the end, Lee was a traitor.

I agree with you on the nastiness. I see some connection to another thread - the one about reality shows. I find the very tone of American Idol and that ilk rather nasty and the peeping tom shows invasive. Pam posted perhaps it is a generational thing. In thinking about that I think of Facebook, Tweetering, and sending nude photos of yourself over the cell phone - whatever the name for that is...

My grandparents had neighbors all their lives. The Murdocks. They had an only child the same as my mother - also an only child. The two families were like one. And until the day she died my grandmother never called her anything but Mrs. Murdock.

People are more open now and I think the quote "familiarity breeds contempt" might be at play in the increased nastiness.

Although I do think Buchanan might want to do a bit of self-reflection. I remember when his sister married a man who was not a Catholic. He refused to speak to her or acknowledge her. Until she divorced.

This might explain his bias in his choice of heros...

Buchanan has English, German, Scots Irish, and Irish ancestry. He had a great-grandfather who fought in the American Civil War on the Confederate side. He is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and admires Robert E. Lee.

[Grace]

Although I do think Buchanan might want to do a bit of self-reflection. I remember when his sister married a man who was not a Catholic. He refused to speak to her or acknowledge her. Until she divorced.

This might explain his bias in his choice of heros...

Was that his sister, Bay? Wonder what he did when she became a Mormon?

They must have made up at some point - I think she did manage his Presidential campaigns.

[Edwina's Secretary]

That was it! She converted when she married. As I recall, he accepted her when she divorced and returned to the fold...something like that.

I don't remember the exact details. I just remember him refusing to have anything to do with her because of religion - an attitude that was causing some problems around me at the time.

[RICHARD]

OMDL!!!!!

http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=11150809

I think Nutsy Pelosi has finally lost her mind.

I think she ate too many twinkies growing up.

*See Twinkie Defense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie_defense

I remember the case very well and laughed when the TD was announced during the trial of Danny White, the idiot who shot Milk and Moscone in the late 70's.

The murders had nothing to do with any kind of 'citizen action'. If anything it should be pinned on the FHs in office, just like the goofy, off-center S of the H.

I really hope that her current health care coverage has provisions for some kind of mental health options.

wow.

[Grace]

Richard, do you have an acronym sheet someplace


You know, something to let us know what all your abbreviations mean

[RICHARD]

Richard, do you have an acronym sheet someplace


You know, something to let us know what all your abbreviations mean

A hint?

I'll use the term and spell it out (w/the exception of Eff Head) Before I abbreiate it in the rest of my rantings!


I didn't do Oh My Dear Lord!
TD = twinkie defense
S of the H = speaker of the house

I'll be more aware of that in the future.

Thanks.

[Grace]

A hint?

I'll use the term and spell it out (w/the exception of Eff Head) Before I abbreiate it in the rest of my rantings!


I didn't do Oh My Dear Lord!
TD = twinkie defense
S of the H = speaker of the house

I'll be more aware of that in the future.

Thanks.

Okay, I did figure out OMDL and TD (I had read about that act of stupidity a long time ago).

I did not figure out S of the H - and I should have

What about this one - The murders had nothing to do with any kind of 'citizen action'. If anything it should be pinned on the FHs in office, just like the goofy, off-center S of the H.

[pomtzu]

What about this one - The murders had nothing to do with any kind of 'citizen action'. If anything it should be pinned on the FHs in office, just like the goofy, off-center S of the H.

FH - fat heads????

How many points do I get for a correct answer, Richard???