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    Just reading the title of the thread makes me think one person's "teaching" is another's "indoctrination," and where the line between the two falls is purely subjective.

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    It is alot of subjection, and it will be untill monday when the WH releases the transcript of BHO's speech.

    The whole public school system is allready a socialist system, and has been for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    The whole public school system is allready a socialist system, and has been for a long time.
    How do you define Socialist?

    And what alternative do you think would be better for public schools?
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    so⋅cial⋅ism [soh-shuh-liz-uhm] –noun 1.
    a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

    There are alot of alternatives to public schooling, yet allmost everybody is forced to fund public schools. People home schooling, or utilizing private schools still have to fund the public schools, even though they are paying for their own childrens education.

    Impliment a voucher system so that families who dont want their kids to go to public school can go to a private school, a charter school, or be home schooled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Impliment a voucher system so that families who dont want their kids to go to public school can go to a private school, a charter school, or be home schooled.
    What do you suggest for those of us who have no children in the local school district? The last time we had a kid in public schools was over 25 years. Yet we have been paying school taxes right along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    What do you suggest for those of us who have no children in the local school district? The last time we had a kid in public schools was over 25 years. Yet we have been paying school taxes right along.
    I dont have kids at all, and I am forced to pay into the system. What do you suggest I do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    I dont have kids at all, and I am forced to pay into the system. What do you suggest I do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    I dont have kids at all, and I am forced to pay into the system. What do you suggest I do?
    I suggest you be glad that the people around you are better educated than they would otherwise be, that there is no underclass of people too poor to attend any kind of school, that there are people in jobs that serve you that can add and subtract, and that you live in a better society than you otherwise would.

    Guess what? I have no children. I live in a town with high taxes. We are building a new hugely expensive and controversial high school, whose construction effects me basically every time I leave my own small street. But am I griping and complaining about it because I don't have children? No. I chose to live here. And, as a matter of fact, I like the children on my street, some of whom attend public school, some who attend private school, but all of whom are my neighbors, and are good, decent, respectful human beings, and all over the age of three learned the proper way to pet a rabbit from Miss Hoppy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Just reading the title of the thread makes me think one person's "teaching" is another's "indoctrination," and where the line between the two falls is purely subjective.

    Ain't human beings funny?

    All the more reason the federal government should not be involved in the education of our children. Reason #1 why we are going to home school Hannah.

    And yes, people ARE funnay. Tell me you don't like to "people watch" at malls and airports. LOL
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    to play devil's advocate, kids do need a kick in the pants to start caring about their education. Politics aside, the education part is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRescue452 View Post
    to play devil's advocate, kids do need a kick in the pants to start caring about their education. Politics aside, the education part is fine.
    I have to chime in here.


    The only thing that comes out of the 'inspirational' Horse Shiat for tomorrow is the parents who voted for BO are going to do the PPS/E with the kids when they get home.

    (Say this like you are gasping for air after a sprint.....)

    OHOHOHOH, what did the prez say?
    Did you pay attention?
    What did you think?


    Please, for most of the kids it will be time to eff off and text.

    Do you think that the Omnipotent One will hold sway over children that age?

    Again, do not underestimate kids.

    They know the BSers and Knuckleheads when they see them.

    Also, you get a child to listen to an "inspirational" talk- I have to edit myself here!!!!!


    bye!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post

    Again, do not underestimate kids.


    bye!
    Sounds to me as if you are the one underestimating kids.

    I remember, when I was a kid, parents who would not let their children be in school for sex education -- didn't want them exposed! Wouldn't let them be around children of a different faith or a different race.

    You can put blinders on a child I suppose...but I am not sure what that accomplishes.

    I would rather a parent let a child see the world and decide what they value, what they don't. You know...trust you kid to make the right choice based on the values you have taught them? That is what my parents did.

    So good bye and so long!

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