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    No, the main criticism was using his position as President to address the school children for political purposes and wasting money to do so.

    He was also accused of using the address to use the children to try and influence their parents.

    I can think of a much better use for a day in school than listening to a piped in broadcast from D.C.........

    Possibly teaching reading, writing, science.......

    You know, the things schools are supposed to do?

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    People should be able to disagree w/Obama and to protest and/or keep their kids home from school that day w/out being villified. He should address school kids if he so desires as other presidents before him have done. However, "Teachers are also given guidance to tell students to "build background knowledge about the president of the United States by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama."" This is unnecessary. If he wants to do a PSA, sure, why not? To "give teachers guidance" is out of his realm and he should stay out.
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    At least the timing of his speech isnt questionable. Link.
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    Just reading the title of the thread makes me think one person's "teaching" is another's "indoctrination," and where the line between the two falls is purely subjective.

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    It is alot of subjection, and it will be untill monday when the WH releases the transcript of BHO's speech.

    The whole public school system is allready a socialist system, and has been for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    The whole public school system is allready a socialist system, and has been for a long time.
    How do you define Socialist?

    And what alternative do you think would be better for public schools?
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    so⋅cial⋅ism [soh-shuh-liz-uhm] –noun 1.
    a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

    There are alot of alternatives to public schooling, yet allmost everybody is forced to fund public schools. People home schooling, or utilizing private schools still have to fund the public schools, even though they are paying for their own childrens education.

    Impliment a voucher system so that families who dont want their kids to go to public school can go to a private school, a charter school, or be home schooled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Just reading the title of the thread makes me think one person's "teaching" is another's "indoctrination," and where the line between the two falls is purely subjective.

    Ain't human beings funny?

    All the more reason the federal government should not be involved in the education of our children. Reason #1 why we are going to home school Hannah.

    And yes, people ARE funnay. Tell me you don't like to "people watch" at malls and airports. LOL
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    to play devil's advocate, kids do need a kick in the pants to start caring about their education. Politics aside, the education part is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRescue452 View Post
    to play devil's advocate, kids do need a kick in the pants to start caring about their education. Politics aside, the education part is fine.
    I have to chime in here.


    The only thing that comes out of the 'inspirational' Horse Shiat for tomorrow is the parents who voted for BO are going to do the PPS/E with the kids when they get home.

    (Say this like you are gasping for air after a sprint.....)

    OHOHOHOH, what did the prez say?
    Did you pay attention?
    What did you think?


    Please, for most of the kids it will be time to eff off and text.

    Do you think that the Omnipotent One will hold sway over children that age?

    Again, do not underestimate kids.

    They know the BSers and Knuckleheads when they see them.

    Also, you get a child to listen to an "inspirational" talk- I have to edit myself here!!!!!


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  11. Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post

    Again, do not underestimate kids.


    bye!
    Sounds to me as if you are the one underestimating kids.

    I remember, when I was a kid, parents who would not let their children be in school for sex education -- didn't want them exposed! Wouldn't let them be around children of a different faith or a different race.

    You can put blinders on a child I suppose...but I am not sure what that accomplishes.

    I would rather a parent let a child see the world and decide what they value, what they don't. You know...trust you kid to make the right choice based on the values you have taught them? That is what my parents did.

    So good bye and so long!

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