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    If it makes you feel any better (it won’t) it is not just retirees getting the squeeze.

    I am beginning the insurance renewal for one of my clients. Right now we are looking at a 12% increase in medical premiums.

    Employees share the cost of the premiums.

    The current economy has been rough on manufacturing companies and with 0% rise in CPI – 0% will probably be what the raises are this year (as in 60% of companies.)

    With the help of our broker we may get the increase down to 9% (I hope.) That will include carve outs – insurance speak for reducing benefits.

    So people making $9 - $12/hour will pay more for less coverage.

    And the company will either have to lay off more people or if possible, pass the increase along to the customer who pass it along until eventually the consumer – you and me – will pay for it.

    We pay for each other's medical care one way or the other. Medicare, private insurance, veterans or the uninsured. There are just a whole lot more hands taking something off the top with our current system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    If it makes you feel any better (it won’t) it is not just retirees getting the squeeze.

    I am beginning the insurance renewal for one of my clients. Right now we are looking at a 12% increase in medical premiums.

    Employees share the cost of the premiums.

    The current economy has been rough on manufacturing companies and with 0% rise in CPI – 0% will probably be what the raises are this year (as in 60% of companies.)

    With the help of our broker we may get the increase down to 9% (I hope.) That will include carve outs – insurance speak for reducing benefits.

    So people making $9 - $12/hour will pay more for less coverage.

    And the company will either have to lay off more people or if possible, pass the increase along to the customer who pass it along until eventually the consumer – you and me – will pay for it.

    We pay for each other's medical care one way or the other. Medicare, private insurance, veterans or the uninsured. There are just a whole lot more hands taking something off the top with our current system.


    Sorry, I missed this earlier. Costs go up & up for everybody.
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    Wonder who put these sections in the bill, and how many in Congress are aware of them?


    Section 431(a) of the bill says that the IRS must divulge taxpayer identity information, including the filing status, the modified adjusted gross income, the number of dependents, and "other information as is prescribed by" regulation. That information will be provided to the new Health Choices Commissioner and state health programs and used to determine who qualifies for "affordability credits."

    Section 245(b)(2)(A) says the IRS must divulge tax return details -- there's no specified limit on what's available or unavailable -- to the Health Choices Commissioner. The purpose, again, is to verify "affordability credits."

    Section 1801(a) says that the Social Security Administration can obtain tax return data on anyone who may be eligible for a "low-income prescription drug subsidy" but has not applied for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Wonder who put these sections in the bill, and how many in Congress are aware of them?



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    They dont care, their healh care isnt affected by this bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Wonder who put these sections in the bill, and how many in Congress are aware of them?



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    I don't like the sound of that. I'm going to check around a bit. Grace, if
    you spot any more info on this, will you post it here? Thanks.
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    The comments on this guy's blog entry( CBS Blog Article) are very
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    http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-504383_1...in;contentBody
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    That looks more like the stuff the Home shopping network would sell not QVC.
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