Politics and religion.

[Puckstop31]

This statement supports....we've gotten is a series of facile, vulgar innuendos about how doctors conduct their practice, as if their primary motive is money....

Well done! You have made the best argument for healthcare reform - get the profit motive out of it....

In typical "Media Matters" style, you pick a line and take it WAY out of context. Lets see what the whole paragraph looks like, shall we?

"What was needed for reform was an in-depth analysis, buttressed by documentary evidence, of waste, fraud and profiteering in the healthcare, pharmaceutical and insurance industries. Instead what we've gotten is a series of facile, vulgar innuendos about how doctors conduct their practice, as if their primary motive is money. Quite frankly, the president gives little sense of direct knowledge of medical protocols; it's as if his views are a tissue of hearsay and scattershot worst-case scenarios."


Looks a little different in context, eh?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Looks a little different in context, eh?

No

[Edwina's Secretary]

From yesterday's LA TIMES

Hundreds of people spent the night outside the Forum in Inglewood in hopes of getting free medical and dental care.

More than 2,000 sought services on the first day of the medical clinic -- and hundreds were turned away. People were lined up Tuesday night, hoping to get in. The MTA announced it was extending service of Line 115 because of "overwhelming demand" for service to the clinic, which runs for eight days.

The Remote Area Medical Foundation is a trailer-equipped service that has staged health clinics in rural parts of the United States, Mexico and South America. It brought its health camp to urban Los Angeles County on Tuesday to begin a stint that the group's officials described as its first foray into a major urban setting.


Organizers expected big crowds in a county with high unemployment and an estimated 22% of working-age adults lacking health insurance.

On Tuesday, the turnout was so large that hundreds had to be turned away.

"We're shorthanded," said the mobile clinic's founder, Stan Brock. About 100 dentists were needed, but only about 30 showed up Tuesday. Twenty eye doctors were required, but only about five were on hand, Brock said.

The mobile clinic, based in Knoxville, Tenn., has staged 576 medical clinics over the last 25 years. They have treated nearly 380,000 patients and provided care valued at $36.9 million, said Executive Director Karen Wilson. The group raises money through contributions.

Doctors, nurses and other medical workers who donated their time said most visitors' ailments were basic. But "many have chronic diseases -- high blood pressure, diabetes, asthma -- conditions we can't deal with in just one day," said Dr. Nancy Greep of Santa Monica. Some had problems, such as a recurring cancer, that demand long-term treatment.

-- Bob Pool and Kimi Yoshino

[Puckstop31]

No

???


"as if". As in she thinks it is wrong to assume that a doctors primary motive is money. Some? Sure. Most? I highly doubt it. Worse is the fact that this nonsense seems to eb an official government position... Who in the hell does he think we are?

During my 35 years so far, i've been in and out of the medical system quite a bit. Being a hockey player and an outdoorsman. I can honestly say I have never felt as if they were rushing me through anything in the name of money. WERE they? Maybe. But if they were, so what? I got the care I needed and they made the money they earned.


Now, of course something needs to change. The article you shared as case in point. But my God.... Have you read what they want to do? Why not bring the hammer down on insurance companies? Why not REQUIRE employers to provide some sort of coverage to employees? Why not REQUIRE insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions? Why does government always think they are the answer?

The government either knows and does not care... Or, as I suspect, so bloody arrogant and out of touch as to REALLY think that the massive uproar over this issue is "fake" or "astro turfed". Made worse by, rather than trying to convince us of their plan's merits, they try to sidestep and shut it down.

[Medusa]

The government ...so bloody arrogant and out of touch as to REALLY think that the massive uproar over this issue is "fake" or "astro turfed".

This would be my guess as is demonstrated by Lee on her cell phone, totally ignoring the constituent's question. Rather than apologize when called out for it and told that she was behaving rudely, she said "I am NOT rude!" Well, they can all keep up their insults and name-calling, their dismissiveness and their rudeness and condescension but come election time when they extend their oily hands and smile their Cheshire cat grins, we'll remember how people were treated and it will be reflected in the voting booths.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Indignation over the conduct of some politicians at town hall meetings would ring more true if behavior such as this Rude? at a town hall meeting about healthcare elicited something more than deafening silence from those same people!

Goose/gander anyone?

[cassiesmom]

from the article Edwina's SEcretary posted: "More than 2,000 sought services on the first day of the medical clinic -- and hundreds were turned away. People were lined up Tuesday night, hoping to get in. The MTA announced it was extending service of Line 115 because of "overwhelming demand" for service to the clinic, which runs for eight days.

The Remote Area Medical Foundation is a trailer-equipped service that has staged health clinics in rural parts of the United States, Mexico and South America. It brought its health camp to urban Los Angeles County on Tuesday to begin a stint that the group's officials described as its first foray into a major urban setting."

I hope to go on a work trip with Remote Area Medical. I didn't know they were starting up inner city services. In addition to doctors they also use nurses. You can go to parts of Kentucky, Tennessee or Virginia. It makes me really sad that in America, in 2009, there are so many people who need care that they're being turned away.

[Edwina's Secretary]

It makes me really sad that in America, in 2009, there are so many people who need care that they're being turned away.

Isn't it so sad, CM? "As you are to the least of my people, so shall you be unto me" apparently is not part of the credo of many in this country.

[Puckstop31]

Indignation over the conduct of some politicians at town hall meetings would ring more true if behavior such as this Rude? at a town hall meeting about healthcare elicited something more than deafening silence from those same people!

Goose/gander anyone?

Like I say all the time... Every group has morons. But they are a very small % of most groups. Of course, the media would have us believe otherwise.

"Indignation over the conduct of some politicians at town hall meetings..." You say, until the next time we have a conservative in office. THEN such idinignation will be just, eh?


<sigh>

[Medusa]

I saw Lee on TV last night in an interview w/Greta Van Susteren and she kept talking over Greta, who was as polite as possible under the circumstances. She told Lee that this is why people are upset w/her, that she doesn't listen so Lee said "Go ahead. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. Go ahead. I'm listening" and on and on. Really? If you're talking, you're not listening. I had to finally mute the TV for a few seconds until I could see that she stopped talking and started listening. She said that she wants the woman who was asking her question while Lee was on her cell phone to come to another town hall meeting so that she can apologize. So what prevented her from apologizing to the woman that night? Even last night on Greta's show her apology was "Sorry!" I'm all for forgiveness but clearly Lee's apology is insincere. She wants the woman to inconvenience herself and go to yet another town hall meeting to ask the question that was ignored the first time? It should've been over and done.