I have contacted CAAWS again, pointing out how many more have been reproduced because of their delay and offering to do whatever it takes to get these cats spayed if I have to trap and transport them to wherever they need to go to be fixed.. I offered to do that before!

I also contacted Cat Haven asking for help and they had this posted on their web sight "Cat Haven's Feral Program has two goals: First, to reduce the population explosion by spaying and neutering feral cats; second, to capture young feral kittens so they may be socialized and domesticated to be good pets. Our program utilizes the proven method of Trap-Neuter-Release (T-N-R). After trapping, each cat is spayed or neutered, given a rabies vaccination and treated for minor ailments."

So maybe they will take the kittens, I asked them to take them with or without the mother when I leave for work.. (I tried them with the can food again this morning and 3 ate it this time.) I made the same offer to Cat Haven to trap and transport and asked if we could set something up NOW for when I get back from work in September. So, with both is is a sit back and wait and see what happens...

I went and got the kittens again this morning and they do seem not so frightened of me this morning. That little Buttons is a screamer, he is the most verbal of them ALL so I am betting it was him that gave away where they were yesterday. They don't like being caged away from their mother at all so I put her in there with them from time to time to calm them down... shuts them right up! I tried just letting them roam but they get under my concrete steps and I can get to them when they are there... they NEED to be where I can handle them frequently..