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    Quote Originally Posted by mrspunkysmom View Post
    I'm Flabbergasted.

    I hope this isn't too much or wrong of me to post this here, but I just had to share. I didn't think anyone was stupid enough to do this to someone in public. I guess this is another case of someone outsmarting the psych test.

    My brother is a cop and I'm all for law and order but this is abuse of power.

    http://www.wyff4.com/news/20241877/detail.html
    Did you see the story of the cops who pepper sprayed, then tased the deaf man in a store restroom?

    Today there was a news story of a cop who rear ended a drunk driver, then he and 3/4 other coppers make up a story about how she caused the accident. Turns out that the dash cam was on and recorded their little stunt. The PD gave a DVD of the incident, with the cops conversation edited out, to the public.

    There are good and bad cops everywhere....This is a story about AHs that just go out and bend the rules. Now, no one knows what real story is, how everyone acted, but to search the gals like that is stupid moron/hi school behavior.

    The worse part is the "Blue Man Crew" PD is getting the time to cover up.

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    I think they lost the opportunity to cover up. The chief admitted the strip search occurred on the scene, yet they had no reason to hold the girls over.

    I didn't hear about the deaf man being tasered. I'll look for it. Sadly it's the bad ones the give the good ones a bad name.
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    I think the girl should sue the pants off of them (PARDON THE PUN, NONE INTENDED). Sounds to me like that officer just wanted a quick peek at a 18 year old girl.

    He pulled her over because her headlight was out! How does that require a search? They had already searched her car and found NOTHING, she offered to take a Breathalyzer so where in the hel* was the probable cause?

    Probable cause for such a search may be supported by a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity if it is based on an informant's tip or if the driver voluntarily informs the officer that there is something illegal in the car (for example, drugs). An officer can then only search the car's trunk if he has probable cause to believe that the illegal evidence or contraband is located there, or the driver consents to this specific search.
    There are some exceptions to these general rules. Police may briefly detain and conduct a limited search of a person in a public place if they have a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed a crime. Reasonable suspicion is a level of belief that is less than probable cause. A police officer possesses reasonable suspicion if he has enough knowledge to lead a reasonably cautious person to believe that criminal activity is occurring and that the individual played some part in it. In practice this requirement means that an officer need not possess the measure of knowledge that constitutes probable cause to Stop and Frisk a person in a public place. In any case, an officer may not arrest a person until the officer possesses probable cause to believe that the person has committed a crime.
    Strip searches without a warrant are presumed to be unreasonable, and therefore, prohibited by the Fourth Amendment unless there are exigent circumstances and probable cause.

    Strip Searches Without an Arrest: Strip searches of individuals in the field who have not been arrested may be conducted only in the following circumstances:

    When there is probable cause to believe that evidence, weapons or contraband exists and will be destroyed or lost in the absence of an immediate strip search; or
    When there is probable cause to believe that an immediate search is necessary to prevent imminent danger to the safety or health of the suspect.
    Otherwise, a warrant shall be obtained or an arrest made before a strip search is conducted.
    http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/mpdp...-200/9-200.asp
    Granted, we do not have the whole story but nowhere in the article did it say they were acting suspicious, not doing as they were told, acting up or being difficult in any form.

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    I have always been very pro-law-enforcement. But, honestly, nothing surprises me anymore.

    A year and a half ago my then sixteen year old son was beaten by three sherriff's deputies. He was in jail (on a minor offense), and had been transported to court. He was, at the time, about 5' 8" and 160 pounds. He was wearing slippers, handcuffs, leg shackles, and his hands were chained to his waist. Three adult men tripped him, where of course he fell on his face, unable to move his arms. They choked him, kicked him, and kneed him while he was face-first on the ground. Their reasoning? "He was mouthy." Seriously.

    They were all convicted of criminal battery charges ... but two of them are still working for the sherriffs department. Doesn't that make you feel safe?
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    If that in unconstitutional I don't know what is, especially with no warrant. For one, he said the reason he pulled her over was for having a broken tail-light, it's not like she was driving wrecklessly or anything of the sort.

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    http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=8189526

    I saw a vid of the mom of this kid.


    AFTER they took the kid into the jail and the magistrate told them to get the heck out of there? They took the kid home, knocked on the door and were halfway down the street before the mom got a chance to see what was going on.

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    Here in El Lay the LAPD SWAT cops went to a hostage scene where a man was holed up in an auto shop. The creep had his daughter in his arms, a gun in hand and was threatening to kill the child.

    SWAT stormed the shop and killed both the child and creep.


    http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jul.../me-shooting15


    Notice that they would not ID the cops who shot the kid, but they will keep with the story that the creep started it all. Now, you don't go pointing guns or do stupid stuff when the cops are around, but that is the universal claim when ever the blame needs to be shifted.

    I cringe everytime I hear the term, "The officer feared for his life."

    Get a safer job then.

    Some cops puff out their chests and claim they go to work and put their lives on the line to protect the public, then flinch when they fear for their lives?

    Hmmmmm......

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    If he was deaf and with the capacity of a ten-year old what was he doing out on his own?

    In the other case, the officers are now saying that there were drugs in the car, that he could smell the marijuana, and that the girls were not stripped searched. Yet the officer was reprimanded for conducting a too lengthy search.

    More to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisterdog View Post
    I have always been very pro-law-enforcement. But, honestly, nothing surprises me anymore.

    A year and a half ago my then sixteen year old son was beaten by three sherriff's deputies. He was in jail (on a minor offense), and had been transported to court. He was, at the time, about 5' 8" and 160 pounds. He was wearing slippers, handcuffs, leg shackles, and his hands were chained to his waist. Three adult men tripped him, where of course he fell on his face, unable to move his arms. They choked him, kicked him, and kneed him while he was face-first on the ground. Their reasoning? "He was mouthy." Seriously.

    They were all convicted of criminal battery charges ... but two of them are still working for the sherriffs department. Doesn't that make you feel safe?
    Being "mouthy" seems to be a serious offense. Just ask Professor Gates!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Being "mouthy" seems to be a serious offense. Just ask Professor Gates!

    You have that right Sara. (I saw the best article on the Gate's incident.)

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...astoriginalsL2



    Twisterdog, that is terrible what your Son went through. I hope
    you hired a Lawyer & sued the cops.
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    http://news.aol.com/article/4-kids-d...e-chase/609128


    These stories make me effing cringe with anger.

    A traffic violation? Issue a ticket to the car owner.

    Then make it so they cannot re-register the vehicle the next year.


    Very simple, very effective.

    And if the owner was not driving the car, let him turn in the idiot and let it be a lesson to him!

    7 people killed because of a stupid pursuit policy.

    Again, the cops do a dirty job, but why do innocent people have to die and why is their no recourse to the families of the IV's?

    The PDs say TFB about it, we were just 'doing our jobs'!

    Morons.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    You have that right Sara. (I saw the best article on the Gate's incident.)
    A very funny take on the Gate's incident was on Jon Stewart's (the most trusted name in news! ) show. His Senior Black Correspondent, Larry Wilmore takes it on....http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...009-spinal-tap

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