Had it with the Food Channel...

[RICHARD]

I don't want to spoil it for anybody so I won't say anything about NFNS until tomorrow.

I will say to Richard: Dude, I sure hope you're watching FN tonight for all the Mexican stuff after NFNS. I have alot of questions for tomorrow.

Elyse, I saw that Dinner Impossible show too. It was really cute.

I will wait for the question and answer period tomorrow..

It's not pinales, diapers are panales!

And the "hormigos en los pantalones" means "Ow, that effing hurt!".... It's hormigas!!!!!

[Logan]

I'm glad I don't know much Spanish! And I was very happy when they made their decision tonight, although I have to admit that I thought Jeffrey was gone. Makes me want to go post over at the Food Network message board because all the know it alls there were convinced that Debbie had already won. LOL!

[RICHARD]

CM,

Oh, you have to check out the WHOLE story about "DI".

We talked about it in this thread....It's funny, sad and weird at the same time! The host, Robert Irvine, began the series, he was busted for 'lying' on his resume, then left the show.

They did one season with Micheal Symon as host-the program really stunk-then brought back Irvine this past year!

D&D,

I had never heard of garbanzos in menudo.

The shrimp cakes in the red sauce and cactus are called "tortas de camaron"
-the ant caviar is waaaay optional-and are a staple during the religious observance of Lent.

http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/a...5/rec0561.html

This was the easiest recipe I found-I saw another that was way more complicated -

http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=...ters)%20mexico

I had to laugh- when you look for a recipe, go with the simpler version, most
intricate versions are the "gourmet" variations that people think up.

You have to watch out if you do decide to try them, the can be ungodly salty. Some people prefer them that way...

Dried shrimp is very salty and some cooks -if they make the dish often- don't taste the dish, they just cook it up and take the chance!

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The taco stand segment really sucked.

I sat here drooling all over myself. I haven't had a good taco for a while.

Tacos de cabeza are the best.

From a cow head you get......Tongue, cheeks, eyes, and brain.

I won't do eyes but love the 'buche" and "sesos" tacos.

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I once had a bad experience with brain tacos, with the mad cow thing, it made it worse, but brains and cheeks are really good.

The program itself?

I loved the way that they put a spelling of the dishes on screen, I found Corwin to be a little rude and abrasive at times? He said some things that made me wince-you don't go into anyone's home and crack jokes about the food, prep or atmosphere. He ground on me a little when he started to do the
'wacky gringo TV show host' bit.

The women at the markets and cooking were the real thing.

You will see these women at the store in their aprons, shopping. Follow them home to get the best Mex food......especially tortillas!

[Karen]

I'm glad I don't know much Spanish! And I was very happy when they made their decision tonight, although I have to admit that I thought Jeffrey was gone. Makes me want to go post over at the Food Network message board because all the know it alls there were convinced that Debbie had already won. LOL!

I was happy as well - how many times did they tell her to use more spice, make her food more flavorful? If she had stayed, I would have lost faith in the whole thing ... she may get a show anyway, time will tell! I have seen commercials for Adam Gertler - who didn't win season - and his "will work for food" show. (He annoyed me, I don't watch it.) And on Bravo, the contestant Tabatha, who didn't win that season's "Shear Genius" got her own show - and a TV show isn't even part of the Shear Genius contest!

[Daisy and Delilah]

I can't hide the fact that I was surprised when Deb was eliminated. I thought she was already chosen to win. Maybe that's what they wanted us to think. I think choosing between Jeffrey and Melissa will be really hard. I expect to see Deb in another FN show.

I remember the contestant that won a couple of years ago and never returned after her first episodes. Amy Findley, I think, was her name. Melissa sorta, in a very small way, reminds me of her. It would be difficult for me to try to do a tv show on FN and have 4 kids at home. I'm guessing that Jeffrey will win.

Richard::::What a Mexican education we got last night on the FN!!! WOW!!!
I was blown away by all the things I saw. I never realized that the Mexican culture included so many "unusual" food items. Are those insect items delicacies, for the most part, or normal cuisine in Mexico? The nest on the wall was unbelievable. I also couldn't believe how many ant bites those guys must have been getting while hunting for the eggs.

I almost barfed with the cow head segment. Actually, I almost barfed in several of the segments. Not so much what they were eating but listening to Corwin describe what he was eating. He kinda surprised me in the fact that he seemed to like everything but the cactus paddles.

I thought Corwin was trying to be a comedian and not really respecting the Mexican people as much as he should have. He had to be the center of attention.

I also thought it was great when they put the words on the screen. I couldn't understand anything they were saying.

It was fascinating to see the Mexican people in their homes, doing what they normally do every day. I can see why they appreciate America so much. They are incredibly poor but proud people.

Do they eat tortillas with every meal? Flour or corn? I saw them put everything in tortillas. Do they make all they'll need for the day and night in the morning? Those women must wake up long before dawn every day to start cooking.

What were the black sooty things on the ears of corn? Have you ever eaten that, Richard? Corwin called it "black pus". OMG!! I almost lost it.

Do the Mexican people grow all their own vegetables and fruits?

I was surprised to see the garbanzo beans in the menudo. I didn't remember ever seeing that either. Of course, I've only seen menudo a few times. It always looks delicious. Why do they choose to use tripe in it?

I was amazed at the alcohol they make. I know tequila is made from the agave. It was awesome to see the older gentleman extracting the liquid from the plant. I wondered if the older matriarchs normally drink a few shots while they're cooking, no matter what time of day it is. Was that a custom or just done for the show? I can hardly see them being pretentious for any reason though.
Richard, have you ever had mescale(spelling?)?

After that show, we had the throwdowns with Spanish fare. Fish tacos and puffy tacos. It was a Mexican night!! I really enjoyed it.

I'm sure I have more questions that will come up later.

[RICHARD]

Richard, have you ever had mescale(spelling?)?

Mezcal?

What do they say about the 60's? If you remember, you weren't there?

If I said I remembered, I only took a sip.

Pulque is trippy, it's like non-alcoholic beer, I haven't had any in years, altho I do have two agave plants in the yard! Most of the old men in the culture are some of the best people you will ever see. I think they are pickled-that is why they last so long-You can go into those small towns and see a group of men-60 to 80-sharing a table. The women on the other hand? I think the drink was just manners, none of the women in the family were drinkers.

The sound of glass clinking and smoke billowing tell you that there is a lot of living to be done!

I had an uncle who could roll a ciggie with one hand-had he lived any closer we would have killed him-How many ciggies could he have smoked in a day?

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No, not all Mexicans don't eat paper wasps off the wall. The strange stuff, like chapulins are staples in the really rural, poor areas. It's like delivery or shopping......the food is there, you just have to get off the couch and go shopping. Quite a few people have veggie gardens and slaughter their own meat.

Corwin is a food wussy.

Brain tacos are creamy and tasty....But, if you already have an idea that you do not like that food, you will give it a 'blah' review.


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CORN SMUT!

No, never had it. It's a fungus, like truffles or mushrooms. I'd give it a whirl-no 'caviar'!


Tortillas...

Every meal.

The cook wakes up early.

Their was the old line in a commercial about joining the Armed Forces-
something like "soldiers do more before breakfast than some people do all day". These women will probably cook 90-95% of the weeks meal's. So they do more cooking in two days than most of us do in a week.

Tortillas are a bit daunting when I try to make them.....An old Mex woman
can look at a pile of masa/dough and the tortillas make themselves....


Almost.

[Daisy and Delilah]

Does Mezcal have something to do with mescaline? Excuse my spelling please.

How did you rate the show overall, Richard? I was impressed to go into the inner workings of the families of the region. This is something we rarely get to see. I loved the way some of the people were totally unscathed at Corwin's behavior.
We have a large Mexican population here. These people are simple and determined. It's amazing how they are.

Being a simple culture, I can never believe the elaborate decorations I see in some of the Mexican restaurants here. I saw some of them on tv last night on the show. Our Mexican restaurants never serve anything like the show depicted but I imagine you can get that food somewhere around here.

I'll bet the FN start incorporating the corn smut in future shows like Iron Chef. It's fascinating and exotic. FN always tries to throw the stuff in that we can never find or afford. i.e. truffles The stuff looks like something that would taste exactly like mold.
Are Mexican people pretty healthy? I imagine their immune systems are perfect. Eating some of the things they do, they have to be strong.

I think I mentioned before that I learned, years ago, that the young Mexican girls are required to make tortillas. When my sister had 64% Mexican students, her students always had burns on their hands. They told her how they made tortillas before school to help their mother's.

I also see the Mexican families are all about family. No question about it. All the family members are together most of the time. It was a big thing for all the Mexican men to gather after dinner and especially on the weekends to party through the nights.

Very interesting information.

[cassiesmom]

Without being a spoiler let me just say I'm pleased with the result of this week's NFNS. I'm surprised that it was done, though. I thought Michael looked very different - wonder what happened to him after he left Miami?

I couldn't watch the show that was on afterward about food in Mexico. I tried to stick with it but I was grossed out. If Mexican families in Chicago are typical, all about family is exactly right. The generations are together and I like that about Mexican families here in Chicagoland.

[Daisy and Delilah]

I have to say it looks like a dead heat with Melissa and Jeffrey. I just can't decide who I think will win.

Any guesses?

[RICHARD]

I have to say it looks like a dead heat with Melissa and Jeffrey. I just can't decide who I think will win.

Any guesses?

Melissa,

They want to cement the woman/homemaker viewers.