Politics and religion.

[blue]

Richard, that Thune Amendment was not a good one. It would have, basically, put the control of gun laws in the hands of the Federal Government. Most gun owners I know, prefer to have Washington keep hands off. Leave it up to the states.

Under the proposed amendment, all states would be required to recognize concealed carry permits from all other states, including states that grant permits without regard to criminal records. In Virginia, this would allow convicted criminals to carry weapons onto parks and playgrounds.

You can read the article HERE.

Absolute garbage, and fearmongering.

[Grace]

Absolute garbage, and fearmongering.

You are entitled to your opinion, as is Mr. Davis entitled to his.

[blue]

You are entitled to your opinion, as is Mr. Davis entitled to his.

But if the Thune amendment passes, that criminal will have absolutely no problem acquiring a concealed carry permit that would allow him to avoid arrest and continue selling guns illegally on the streets

How would a CCW lisence allow a criminal to continue to sell firearms illegaly?

What states allow a violent criminal to obtain a CCW? None that I know of.

A friend of mine has a misdemeaner in AK and is forbiden from owning a firearm. So maybe Mr. Davis can explain to me how a man who cant own a firearm can have a CCW?

I wont go into the fact that an Amendment has to be ratified by the States to become law.

[Grace]

I wont go into the fact that an Amendment has to be ratified by the States to become law.

This was to be an amendment to the Defense Spending Bill - NOT an amendment to the Constitution.

source

July 20th, 2009 - Washington, D.C. - Senator John Thune has offered a bipartisan amendment to the Defense Authorization bill (S. 1390) that would help in reducing crime by providing reciprocity for the carrying of concealed firearms. The Thune amendment (#1618) would allow individuals to carry lawfully concealed firearms across state lines, while at the same time respecting the laws of the host state.
etc., etc., etc. . . . . . .

[RICHARD]

When I go to buy a gun and give info, etc. who OK's the purchase?

And who approves the sale of weapons between private citizens?

I probably could go around and get a gun, origin kinda sketchy, that I could theoretically carry all around the U.S. in my car, and unless I do something stupid or illegal, no one would be the wiser.

It happens all the time and to tweak a law like that is a little like the barn door closing after someone shot my cow in the pasture.

Soemthing good, like a steak, may come of it, but what protected my cow before that?

And yes, I should have fixed that door!

[blue]

This was to be an amendment to the Defense Spending Bill - NOT an amendment to the Constitution.

source

July 20th, 2009 - Washington, D.C. - Senator John Thune has offered a bipartisan amendment to the Defense Authorization bill (S. 1390) that would help in reducing crime by providing reciprocity for the carrying of concealed firearms. The Thune amendment (#1618) would allow individuals to carry lawfully concealed firearms across state lines, while at the same time respecting the laws of the host state.
etc., etc., etc. . . . . . .

I wasnt paying that close attention to the amendement in question, you are absolutely correct.

It doesnt change the realities of CCW laws.

There are only two states with unrestricted CCW laws, and in AK if you are convicted of certain misdemeaners you cannot own a firearm so you cannot have a CCW. If you are a convicted [EDIT]of a [/EDIT]felony most Federal laws prohibit firearm ownership, so no CCW permits for felons even in unrestricted states.

Garbage arguement by Mr. Davis.

[EDIT]Maybe Karen can move this CCW discussion to the Firearms thread?[/EDIT]

[Karen]

I cannot move individual posts from one thread to another.

[RICHARD]

11-12 a.m.

The Prez-

Health Care Blues, (2009) NEW-
The Prez (Barry Obama) tries to win back popularity points he's lost in the last few months with his health care reform program. On the heels of his press conference the night before, he goes on the road to bolster his ego and finds out that the public in Ohio is smarter than he first thought! (Comedy.)