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    Anyone remember the TV show Dirty, Sexy Money?

    It's playing out right now, live, in Nevada and the U.S. Senate.

    Sen. John Ensign's parents shelled out big bucks to pay off their son's mistress, the latest twist in an unfolding scandal that has upended the political career of the one-time rising GOP star.

    The scandal has also touched Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), another prominent conservative, who revealed that he had confronted Ensign about the affair and urged him to end it, but says he will refuse to divulge any conversations with Ensign — even under inquiry from ethics investigators.

    On Thursday, Ensign's attorney said that the senator's parents gave Doug Hampton, Cynthia Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 in the form of a check. The attorney, Paul Coggins, said that each gift was limited to $12,000 and "complied with tax rules governing gifts."

    The disclosure of the April 2008 payment seemed intended to head off growing questions about whether Ensign violated federal law by failing to report what Doug Hampton called a severance package worth more than $25,000 to his wife Cynthia, who left Ensign's campaign staff on April 30, 2008.

    Ensign was not required to report the giving of such gifts, and on Thursday, his attorney went to lengths to point out that the payments were made and "accepted" as gifts from personal accounts rather than as a severance package for their dismissal from his staff. It's unclear whether the Hamptons view the payments as a gift or as severance, and an attorney for the couple wasn't reachable for comment.

    The revelations of the payoff came as the scandal - quiet for several weeks - blossomed anew as Doug Hampton, the husband of Ensign's mistress Cynthia, told a Nevada television show this week that Ensign left his family in shambles by relentlessly pursuing his wife, even after writing a February 2008 letter purporting to break off the affair. The nine-month affair ended in August 2008 - some three months after the time both Hamptons left Ensign's staff.
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    Something to ponder on....

    Thomas Paine was a wise man... I give you the first paragraph of Common Sense. Feb. 1776

    Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not yet sufficently fashionable to procure them general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in the defence of custom. But tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason.


    Given Grace's above example... And we all know many more can be found and talked about, from BOTH the D and R side.... Isn't it time to put the petty division of parties behind us? All they accomplish is to keep us fighting each other.
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post

    Given Grace's above example...
    Which one - I posted on two different topics?

    I'd rather discuss the first one - the second has become so very common these days

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    Again I say...I am neither D nor R...I am either V for voter or A for American.

    I do not care what party affiliation someone professes...I care about the actions...the words of the person.

    So...who keeps bringing up ....D...or R???

    Yup...to quote another long gone guy...Physician...heal thyself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    So...who keeps bringing up ....D...or R???
    It must have been your turn today.


















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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Again I say...I am neither D nor R...I am either V for voter or A for American.

    I do not care what party affiliation someone professes...I care about the actions...the words of the person.

    So...who keeps bringing up ....D...or R???

    Yup...to quote another long gone guy...Physician...heal thyself!

    First, thank you for reading my posts again. Second, I wasn't talking about you... There are a couple of other here who play that card.


    So, lets discuss policy then? Any opinions on the "Global Warming" bill currently making its way through Congress? Your lady, Barbara Boxer, said some pretty amazing things about it recently. Apparently, she reads different science than the rest of us.


    Finally, FWIW.... I don't want a fight. Believe it or not, I think you really do love our country. We just differ, vastly, on what we think is best for it. All I want is a chat about it. I like it on sites where the main focus is not such stuff, because you usually are just talking to "regular" people. The honesty level is usually higher. So lets not talk down to each other and lay off the barely hidden venom. I am just as guilty as anybody. OK?
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    . Believe it or not, I think you really do love our country.
    What hubris. What arrogance. You are the arbiter of "love of country"???

    No thanks.

    Zebras don't change their stripes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    What hubris. What arrogance. You are the arbiter of "love of country"???

    No thanks.

    Zebras don't change their stripes.

    It is funny. Maybe Puck is trying out his new Zen persona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    What hubris. What arrogance. You are the arbiter of "love of country"???

    No thanks.

    Zebras don't change their stripes.
    Wow... You must really hate me. That is not even close to what I meant.


    I just wanted you to know that I am not one of those "Fox News Republicans" who think that if you are not with us, you hate your country.


    Will you ever be able to let go of the drama ES? Maybe take a step back once and not assume the worst from your "enemies"? I am trying to do that.


    FWIW, perhaps Zebras cannot change their stripes... But human beings are capable of life altering changes. I've seen it and surely you have too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Which one - I posted on two different topics?

    I'd rather discuss the first one - the second has become so very common these days
    These days? Come now, we know politics is the 2nd oldest profession, yet is VERY similar to the first, eh? LOL

    You have me at a loss I think. When you say "first" one, do you mean gay marriage? If so, there is not much to discuss... We are probably on the same side there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    These days? Come now, we know politics is the 2nd oldest profession, yet is VERY similar to the first, eh? LOL

    You have me at a loss I think. When you say "first" one, do you mean gay marriage? If so, there is not much to discuss... We are probably on the same side there.
    I did mean the first one - about gay marriage. I think the other one has been dissected from all sides, both here and everywhere else. I'm sorry I posted that article, now. Just couldn't resist the comparison between "real life" and sleaze TV.

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