Michael Jackson Dead

**Medusa** · 06-27-2009, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by pomtzu

Unfortunately, I think that every nasty detail of his life, and then some, will be exploited by all the worms that are now crawling out of the woodwork. IMO, it will be a very long time before MJ is ever allowed to RIP - if ever.

I think you're right, Ellie, and it's such a shame. Every time I see a clip of him moonwalking, it takes me back to my kitchen when my son was constantly wearing out his socks because he was moonwalking all the time. I thought the boy would never walk forward again! Those are the times I prefer to remember. All of the weird stuff that came after is sad and depressing.

**kitten645** · 06-27-2009, 08:43 PM

"I thought the boy would never walk forward again!"

That made me LOL. My little brother was the same way. He was constantly knocking stuff over doing is MJ impression and it would drive my mother bonkers! LOL!

**pomtzu** · 06-28-2009, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Medusa

All of the weird stuff that came after is sad and depressing.

Ya know - there is no disputing that he was very strange and he even admitted to some very weird behavior behind the scenes, before it became public knowledge, but I can't help but wonder if the accusations made against him of child molestation, were totally true. He had a very child-like nature which did nothing but make him look guilty, but I wonder just how much he was really guilty of. He had an awful lot of big names in his corner - Elizabeth Taylor and Liza Manelli come to mind as just a couple. Unfortunately, MJ was his own worst enemy, and he took his guilt or innocence with him in death. He was the only living being that knew the absolute truth, and no matter how much those that are left behind care to speculate, no one will ever know for sure.

**Scooter's Mom** · 06-28-2009, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by pomtzu

Ya know - there is no disputing that he was very strange and he even admitted to some very weird behavior behind the scenes, before it became public knowledge, but I can't help but wonder if the accusations made against him of child molestation, were totally true. He had a very child-like nature which did nothing but make him look guilty, but I wonder just how much he was really guilty of. He had an awful lot of big names in his corner - Elizabeth Taylor and Liza Manelli come to mind as just a couple. Unfortunately, MJ was his own worst enemy, and he took his guilt or innocence with him in death. He was the only living being that knew the absolute truth, and no matter how much those that are left behind care to speculate, no one will ever know for sure.

Not true. IF the allegations were true, the innocent children he molested know for sure.

Not saying they were/are true, just stating that he's not the only one who knew the truth.

**pomtzu** · 06-28-2009, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Scooter's Mom

Not true. IF the allegations were true, the innocent children he molested know for sure.

Not saying they were/are true, just stating that he's not the only one who knew the truth.

Yes - but....

Were they told what to say - and perhaps elaborate to the point that it would appear to be molestation? Children can be made to think one thing happened, when it was actually something totally different. It has happened many times before, and innocent people have gone to jail because of it.

I'm not saying that the children were prompted to "stretch the truth", just as I'm not saying that MJ was not guilty, but I still believe that MJ is the only one that knows for sure.

This is just IMHO of course.

**Medusa** · 06-28-2009, 10:05 AM

I can recall his sister Latoya speaking out against him, insisting that he was a pedophile. I didn't believe a word she said simply because I felt that she was doing it to get attention for herself. She's a no talent, isn't even in the same range w/Michael or Janet or even the rest of the family. It'll be interesting to see how she conducts herself now.

**Marigold2** · 06-28-2009, 10:44 AM

I am going to take Mr. Jackson at his word, which is that he slept with boys in his bed and he felt there was nothing wrong with that.
Now the question is why did he feel it was not wrong?
My personal belief is that he was molested as a child, perhaps by someone in the music indrustry, someone he trusted and loved.
He was not close to his dad, from what I remember he was a bully and the kids were afraid of him.
So in comes this other man, giving praise, perhaps a mentor and young Michael for the first time in his life has a man who is kind and loving to him. Yes the relationship was sexual after a bit, but it was also the only love he had from an adult. So Michael thinks that sex with an adult is the only way to get love and praise. He has decided that this is not so bad.
This of course confused Michael and started his mental confusion, thereby wanting to remain a child in many ways so he could continue to recieve love and affection.
As an adult a child in his bed is not such a bad thing, he is after all loving this child, showing them kindness, patience, understanding, giving gifts and yes having a bit of sex.
Twisted but oh so logical to Mr. Jackson.
That is my arm chair consul. That will be $200.00 please pay Margaret on your way out and don't forget to make a follow up in two weeks.