Something every dog owner should read!!

**carrie** · 06-23-2009, 02:45 PM

You are right and you will never get your clear, educated and helpful message across here.

If you have not already, you will be accused of stealing ideas off other behaviourists despite the many years of study and accreditation you have gone through.

The site is, as it says, for pet owners. They have little knowledge or interest in behaviour and do not understand the terminology that you use. You can see that by the responses to your post.

It is really great of you to try to help people who are actually asking for help, they do not understand what you are telling them. "My dog is just not like that!"

We both know that dogs are dogs and people are people but when you get responses that ask if wild dogs lie on comfy rocks?

**dab_20** · 06-24-2009, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by carrie

You are right and you will never get your clear, educated and helpful message across here.

If you have not already, you will be accused of stealing ideas off other behaviourists despite the many years of study and accreditation you have gone through.

The site is, as it says, for pet owners. They have little knowledge or interest in behaviour and do not understand the terminology that you use. You can see that by the responses to your post.

It is really great of you to try to help people who are actually asking for help, they do not understand what you are telling them. "My dog is just not like that!"

We both know that dogs are dogs and people are people but when you get responses that ask if wild dogs lie on comfy rocks?

I think you have the wrong idea of this forum. There are many very well educated people here, who know about the behavior of dogs. This is a forum, and you'll get different responses when you post something. Many of us do have knowledge and interest of dog behavior and health. I know I certainly do, and I have actually learned a lot while on this forum.

**Jags mom** · 06-24-2009, 01:53 PM

Both my dogs follow all those rules. My dogs are still allowed on the bed with us, but only if asked(they are asked quite frequently

). but they are big so if my fiance or i come on the bed there is no room, a quiet off and off they go. The food thing is a major for me. That is a major rule in (99% of the animal kingdom) so its a rule for my animals too. Everything becomes habit and you are still letting your pooches be your best friends, they seem more at peace when they have guidlines. If taught from pups they or you dont notice that they are rules anymore. both my dogs are still quircky little turkies and have loads of personallity. none of those rules took that away from them.

**bckrazy** · 06-25-2009, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by carrie

You are right and you will never get your clear, educated and helpful message across here.

If you have not already, you will be accused of stealing ideas off other behaviourists despite the many years of study and accreditation you have gone through.

The site is, as it says, for pet owners. They have little knowledge or interest in behaviour and do not understand the terminology that you use. You can see that by the responses to your post.

It is really great of you to try to help people who are actually asking for help, they do not understand what you are telling them. "My dog is just not like that!"

We both know that dogs are dogs and people are people but when you get responses that ask if wild dogs lie on comfy rocks?

First of all... old thread... troll alert...

Second of all... how can it be assumed that a member with 1 single post has gone through "many years of study and accreditation"? That assumption is just as presumptuous as the assumption that everyone with a different opinion has little knowledge or interest in behavior and does not understand the decades old and outdated terminology used.

Dogs are DOGS, not wolves. And people are PEOPLE, not dogs, or wolves, or badgers, etc. Dominance is used and abused to explain practically any behavioral problem by "dog psychologists"/negative-training/pack-themed trainers, when a small minority of dogs are truly dominant... they have, after all, been bred for thousands of years to be followers and puppyish for life. A dog who lacks manners, guidance, mental/physical stimulation and just some time from their owners is not automatically a dominant dog. I don't disagree with everything posted - crate training, timed feeding, basic NILIF - that's pretty much a given. But to suggest that my dogs are dominating me because they enjoy furniture, walk ahead of me on loose leashes, and eat at their normal time regardless of when I eat, is just close-minded.