Healthcare costs

[Nomilynn]

And all this time I was told that the Canadian Gov put a cap on the cost of prescription drugs, and if American Pharma companies didnt or wouldnt sell them for the lesser amount, Candian Pharma companies would reverse engineer the drug, then produce and sell it.

I'm not sure what this means - can you explain?

Like I said, I don't know enough about it, and I really didn't feel like researching it I just know that there have been times that Canada has refused to sell and prescribe drugs that are available in the US because they didn't meet Canadian standards. I can't even remember the drug, but it's always in the news when it happens.

[pomtzu]

I'm not sure what this means - can you explain?

I can't be certain, but what I think he is saying, is that they would analyze the chemical components and then manufacture their own under a different name, and sell at a lesser cost. I don't know that this would be possible tho, since they would be infringing on patent rights and leaving themselves open to a big lawsuit if this was done before the patent time had expired.

Just my interpretation of what was said, of course. I could be mistaken.

[RICHARD]

If you go to Mexico and sit down for a meal, order a Coke and make sure you get it in a bottle-a glass bottle.

The first thing you notice is the bottle is a few years old...no worries there, they recycle glass but do not bust it up and re-melt it, it goes back to the bottler and they re-use it! Pop the top and taste it. You'll notice that it's the same stuff you drank as a kid. Real sugar, no BS fake stuff.

It's the same Coca Cola company except there is no FDA or any of the other regulatory fingers in the pie, so, you get real Coke...... LOL, that is why the Toad from Venezuela doesn't like Coke Zero?

It the same with all the med companies-Check out the home pages for the guys who stock your medicine chest and you can be assured they have a Canadian, Mexican and Euro offices.

It's all the politics and regulations we have in our country that make HC so expensive.

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[Grace]

It's the same Coca Cola company except there is no FDA or any of the other regulatory fingers in the pie, so, you get real Coke...... LOL, that is why the Toad from Venezuela doesn't like Coke Zero?

Oh, I don't like it either. I think it's one of the vilest things I have ever imbibed - and I sent Coke an email about it.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Not really....most countries including Mexico and Canada have a equivalent to the Food and Drug Administration. In Canada it would be safe to say a more strigent one...yet cheaper drugs. Hmmmm....

And some of us might remember what happens when there is not government oversight of the products companies sell us to put in our bodies.

Can anyone remember thalidomide????

[phesina]

And some of us might remember what happens when there is not government oversight of the products companies sell us to put in our bodies.

Can anyone remember thalidomide????

I can, and I can also remember the kids with flippers born to mothers who had taken it.

[RICHARD]

Oh, I don't like it either. I think it's one of the vilest things I have ever imbibed - and I sent Coke an email about it.

Don't you start siding with Hugo Chavez!


Phesina,
Babies were born with flippers beause there was hardly any rules to screen treatments/meds back then.

There was a time when preemie newborns were put into an oxygen tent and no one suspected anything until people found out that the excess O2 caused blindness in the newborns.

JNA,

I hear you. I saw 30 years of people being stupid.

Let us remember of the lazy doc who does not want to be bothered about accessing the system so he gives his nurse, sec't., lab person his ALL ACCESS password so he can doctor and not waste his time on the computer.

I know you can do your job well and be responsible, but what about the jerk in the lab, radiology or GYN office that is not paying attention to what they have to do?

I worked in a chart room for years and I will be effed if I say I was on point every day I clocked in.

You mentioned something very important about 'terminal vigilance'-you get booted after 10 minutes? If you do walk away from a authorized terminal can you promise all you patients that no one else will access that keyboard until you are timed out?


P.S.
If you know what a bunch of F wads the radiologists/docs/residents are with x rays, how can you put trust in them with a computer terminal, logging info into the system and making sure that films are there when needed?

The sys is only as good as the input.

[Edwina's Secretary]

JNA,

I I know you can do your job well and be responsible, but what about the jerk in the lab, radiology or GYN office that is not paying attention to what they have to do?


You mentioned something very important about 'terminal vigilance'-you get booted after 10 minutes? If you do walk away from a authorized terminal can you promise all you patients that no one else will access that keyboard until you are timed out?


The sys is only as good as the input.

None of your arguments say why paper is better than automated. A good doctor, nurse or technician is good whether on a computer or using paper. A not good doctor, nurse or tehcnician is not good whether using paper or a computer.

If you walk away from an authorized paper file can you promise all you patients that no one else will access that file until you come back for it?

Same difference. The system is only as good as those using it.

[RICHARD]

Are Jack in the Box smoothies FDA approved?

[catland]

If you go to Mexico and sit down for a meal, order a Coke and make sure you get it in a bottle-a glass bottle.

Don't you remember the opening scene in the bottling plant in "The Incredible Hulk?"

[RICHARD]

Don't you remember the opening scene in the bottling plant in "The Incredible Hulk?"

Another movie to rent!