Quote Originally Posted by Varga View Post

Are Collies bigger in America btw? (just asking this to anyone who might know)
Yes.. the European bred Collie is 2 inches shorter at the shoulders than the North American Collies. European Collies are 20-22" tall for bitches and 22-24" for dogs. In N. America they are 22-24" for bitches and 24-26" for dogs.

There are a lot of differences between the two though... more than just height. Also in most European countries roughs and smooths are considered two separate breeds... and are not allowed to be interbred. In the US and Canada they are one breed, with 2 varieties and are often bred together. Just a little extra info LOL