Seriously...

[Medusa]

Yes, blue has talked about Erp many times.

And well said, Catty1.

[moosmom]

My Mom always told anyone that came to our house that the 3 things you do not discuss with my father is sex, politics and religion.

Now I know why. Only took 50 years to figure that out.

Arguing or debating about those three subjects is the same as my ex-husband renting space in my head. Gets me nowhere and wastes my time.

Or...

Never argue with a chicken. It wastes your time and p*sses off the chicken.

Take your pick!

[lizbud]

Blue, I can tell how miffed you are that most PTalkers don’t agree with your political views, or your desire for arming the citizens of USA. What a bummer, eh!

You most definately are in minority here, or I would not be here!

Years ago, we used to have fun on PT, we shared good advice and stories about our pets. I fear that many people who browse PT and see all kinds of political bickering, refrain from joining - they would surely expect this Forum to be for pet lovers.

Having seen your posts over a period of time, I was beginning to wonder if you have any pets yourself, because you seem to be posting about everything else than pets.

There are Forums out there for people like you - maybe you should join one. I’ll provide a link here for you:
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/
... and one more: http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/


It’s outrageous that you can accuse ES for being a troll and turn her thread about a National Park into a political fight! It doesn't seem ES can anything without a nasty comment from you. I believe quite a few of us are SO fed up with it!

I agree & the last few weeks, the rudeness has really been over the top.

[Grace]

http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/
... and one more: http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/

Holy cow - those forums are frightening!! People posting there, and others who post on the opposite side of the spectrum - they are the kind whom I can envision doing evil things - like the man who shot Dr. Tiller earlier today.

Fanatics, rabid fanatics - that's what they are.

[Cinder & Smoke]

It’s outrageous that you can accuse ES for being a troll and
turn her thread about a National Park into a political fight!

It doesn't seem ES can anything without a nasty comment from you.
I believe quite a few of us are SO fed up with it!

*Agreed*!

The frequent *jumping to conclusions* and sometimes pointless *bashing*
are getting a bit hard to read ...

Blue and a couple others might want to *give it a REST* and
tell a few Pet Tails.

[phesina]

Never argue with a chicken. It wastes your time and p*sses off the chicken.

Another version: Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

[Edwina's Secretary]

It has caused me to see a side of some people that I would have preferred remain hidden, and I have lost respect for a few PTers. I am not alone in my feelings on this.

I agree wholeheartedly with you Pam!

[moosmom]

Phesina,

Pig, chicken, duck, I knew it was one of those. I'm having alot of senior moments lately. Makes me want to call the Alzheimer's toll free number to see if that's one of the 10 signs I'm getting it.

[Puckstop31]

These are the times that try mens souls... I think it is time to stop focusing so much on "style" and more on substance. Now I know that sometimes things are juts so over the top that it deserves no responce.

But all we get any more are the "sides" cheerleading each other. Nothing is every really discussed because, again IMO, certian people are either unwilling or not able to offer original thought. Its a lot of "I agree" or posting a news article and saying "this is stupid" or "I agree".

FWIW, I am more than willing to debate, really debate, any of the "touchy" subjects with anybody who would have it. But you have to understand that politics is a contact sport.... Sometimes you get a bloody nose. Which is good for ya, now and then. I've had my share and appreciate it. Its how we best learn... Not by just cheerleading along with people whom we agree with.

[Karen]

Politics need not be a "contact sport" here on Pet Talk. If you want to really argue about politics, instead of having polite, respectful discussion, there are other boards where that is more appropriate, and welcome.

[Puckstop31]

Politics need not be a "contact sport" here on Pet Talk. If you want to really argue about politics, instead of having polite, respectful discussion, there are other boards where that is more appropriate, and welcome.

I understand. But to REALLY debate politics, the gloves NEED to be able to come off. (Not talking about demeaning the other person.) Read some of notes from our Constitutional Convention...


IMO, there it is very rarely wrong to say what you mean, and mean what you say. How much better would our country be if we ALL just played our cards face up? Yeah, that means some people would "out" themselves... But is that a bad thing? LOL

[sparks19]

I am also one that doesn't really venture here all that often anymore. I don't have the time. I'm busy with hannah and "just counting beads".

But my opinion is those in glass houses shoudlnt' throw stones. and that goes for everyone.

This section of the forum would be great if we just stuck to the subject and talked about that. But it ALWAYS ends up being about how someone can't spell or how their grammar isn't perfect or reading words taht aren't there and making a mountain out of a molehill.

Can't we jsut read what is on the screen... take the info (despite any spelling errors) and go with that and talk about THAT?

it seems that we can't.

I'm just not into putting people down based on the way they spell or the job they do in life or antyhing else. It's not the person I want to be and not the person I want people to think I am so I have stayed away for the most part.

[caseysmom]

I am also one that doesn't really venture here all that often anymore. I don't have the time. I'm busy with hannah and "just counting beads".

But my opinion is those in glass houses shoudlnt' throw stones. and that goes for everyone.

This section of the forum would be great if we just stuck to the subject and talked about that. But it ALWAYS ends up being about how someone can't spell or how their grammar isn't perfect or reading words taht aren't there and making a mountain out of a molehill.

Can't we jsut read what is on the screen... take the info (despite any spelling errors) and go with that and talk about THAT?

it seems that we can't.

I'm just not into putting people down based on the way they spell or the job they do in life or antyhing else. It's not the person I want to be and not the person I want people to think I am so I have stayed away for the most part.

Good post and I couldn't agree more. The originator of this thread nit picked my spelling and thats when I lost respect.

[Twisterdog]

I will post occasionally in the Dog House, if there is a topic that I just can't leave alone. I usually just scan the headings, yawn, and move on. I am interested to a certain point in politics, but a little bit goes a long way with me. Discussing it in great detail for months on end just puts me to sleep.

I agree with others, this a pet-related site. Sure, it's nice to have the General and Dog House categories, because while pets are big part of lives, they are not our whole lives. We also like to talk about our families, jobs, etc. But the base of this site is animals, not politics. I think that is why you don't see a huge interest in detailed political debate. Just like people registered on political website might mention their pets in a thread or two in the general section, but you're not going to see anything like we have here concerning pets. Just different interests, different focus.

[RICHARD]

Hee Hee.

Some of my most cherished contacts here on PT have OPPOSITE views of mine.

They have a great sense of humor and know when I am tweaking noses.

They rock because they can tweak back. I understand where they come from and am able to have a good 'disagreement' with then and later on laugh about it.

Politics is a contact sport.

The sound of two glasses clinking during a toast, is the way that politics should be handled. After a spirited discussion, break out the booze.


Contact enough!
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Politics is a very personal subject, as is sex and religion....

GD it, those effing politicians are screwing us again!

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As I said on the morning of 9/11 to my parents, when I decided to go to work.

"The terrorists don't care about an old Mexican couple in California."


Neither do the politicians, so do not place yourself on a pedestal rooting for those SOBs that get into office on OUR vote and laugh at our stupidity.