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    IIRC, I read somewhere that about 36,000 people die each year in the US from the flu. Often the flu itself is not the killer, but the complications that develop from it. Also, again IIRC, most of the people who die from the flu and/or complications from it are older, very young or have compromised immune systems. For instance, a AIDS patient who contracts the flu has a much higher chance of dying from it. Does that count as a AIDS or flu death?


    Personally, I do not think it is an accident that the media is going ape over this and, IMO, blowing it WAY out of proportion. Further, we should keep a watchful eye on Big Nanny. They never want a "good" crisis to go to waste ya know. LOL

    Did anybody notice that because of this "crisis", Kathleen Sebelius's confirmation was rushed through? Even though Health and Human Services (as Unconstitutional as it is...) was handling things fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Did anybody notice that because of this "crisis", Kathleen Sebelius's confirmation was rushed through? Even though Health and Human Services (as Unconstitutional as it is...) was handling things fine.
    Perhaps someone was enchanted w/her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    IIRC, I read somewhere that about 36,000 people die each year in the US from the flu. Often the flu itself is not the killer, but the complications that develop from it. Also, again IIRC, most of the people who die from the flu and/or complications from it are older, very young or have compromised immune systems. For instance, a AIDS patient who contracts the flu has a much higher chance of dying from it. Does that count as a AIDS or flu death?


    Personally, I do not think it is an accident that the media is going ape over this and, IMO, blowing it WAY out of proportion. Further, we should keep a watchful eye on Big Nanny. They never want a "good" crisis to go to waste ya know. LOL

    Did anybody notice that because of this "crisis", Kathleen Sebelius's confirmation was rushed through? Even though Health and Human Services (as Unconstitutional as it is...) was handling things fine.
    Gotta disagree with you on this one Puck!

    Personally, I don't see where it's being blown out of proportion. I feel we are being informed, and since NOBODY had a flu shot that would be effective against this since no vaccine exists for this strain, then we need to be informed. I don't think anyone has pushed any panic button - do you? First of all, what most people think of as the regular flu season has passed, therefore they might be more lax in the preventative measures they would normally take, and be potentially more susceptible. Of course folks should practice sensible preventatives year round, but does that happen? I don't think so. At least with the reporting of this outbreak, they might be a little more cautious. And I agree - most flu deaths probably aren't from the flu itself - but if you can avoid the flu in the first place - then your odds of survival are greater, aren't they?
    I am "older" and also have a compromised immune system, so IF I should be so unfortunate to get it, it would probably be a lot more serious than if YOU got it. I'm not in any kind of panic, and I'm not going to lock myself in my house and not go anywhere, but I do appreciate knowing what's happening around me. It's just common sense that the public should be informed without causing undue alarm, and that's all I'm seeing so far.
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    The MSM blew SARs, West Nile Virus, the Bird Flu, all out of proportion so people would be informed, IE higher ratings.

    You want to be informed, check here and here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    The MSM blew SARs, West Nile Virus, the Bird Flu, all out of proportion so people would be informed, IE higher ratings.

    You want to be informed, check here and here.
    Thanks anyway, but I really don't have the time or desire to seek out everything that is being reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    The MSM blew SARs, West Nile Virus, the Bird Flu, all out of proportion so people would be informed, IE higher ratings.

    You want to be informed, check here and here.

    Thanx, blue. I bookmarked both links. Great to have.
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    Actually in this case, Puckstop is more at risk than you. It is not the usual flu where people who are very young, old, or have compromised immune systems are at risk. It is people in the 20-40 age range - those with good, strong immune systems. WIth this flu, the danger is that it provokes such a strong response from the a healthy immune system that everything gets inflamed, and that's the danger - fluid building up, pneumonia and death.

    That is one of the reasons the World Health Organization is so very concerned, as that is a population society needs - to take of the ones at the other ends of the spectrum!

    And we all, who have watched journalism for any time know - if it bleed, it leads. Nothing is quite as exciting and newsworthy as possible death!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Nothing is quite as exciting and newsworthy as possible death!
    Agreed... That and the sensational stories like the Octomom and the Craigslist murderer. I am not minimizing this flu, but am not impressed with the way it is being reported.

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    Pom, Karen.... I hear ya.


    Just be wary as to what is actually done to "protect" us. You know me and how I roll. LOL


    As for me personally... What will be, will be. I'll just keep living my life the way I am lead by the Lord. When my time comes, I am ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    I'll just keep living my life the way I am lead by the Lord. When my time comes, I am ready.
    Amen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post


    As for me personally... What will be, will be. I'll just keep living my life the way I am lead by the Lord. When my time comes, I am ready.
    Hey - I'll drink to that.

    However, I am also a firm believer that ignorance is NOT bliss !
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    The clock of life is wound but once and no man has the power
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    Now is the only time you have, so live it with a will -
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    ignorance is NOT bliss !
    I second that, Ellie. A late friend of mine used to drive really fast and w/out a seat belt and she'd say "God will protect me". I told her that God gives us common sense, too, and that she'd better start using it. I think it's good to be informed about the swine flu and anything else that affects our lives but to be overly concerned at this point is unwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    Hey - I'll drink to that.

    However, I am also a firm believer that ignorance is NOT bliss !

    Quite.


    No problems, of course, with being in the know. I just fear ANY time Big Nanny comes trying to "save" us from the next big evil.
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