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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Adults have different "rights" than minors. At age 65, people have different "rights" than those under age 65 - people who have passed a driver's test have different "rights" than those who have not. Veterans have different "rights" than those who have not served in the military.

    The problem is what the word "rights" means. I've said this before. It gets thrown around carelessly.
    This is a good point...

    To me, a right is something inalienable. Something that just IS, not granted or denied by a piece of paper. Perhaps government/controlling agency may not recognize a peoples inalienable rights, but they are still rights all the same. Further I belive that a true RIGHT is something that age, sex, creed, marital status, sexual preference, religion, etc, should be blind to. I think the US Bill of Rights pretty much hits it on the head.

    I think, if I wrote the quoted part above, I would replace "rights" in the first paragraph with entitlements. Entitlements are a whol different ball game. A entitlement can be granted and taken away at the stroke of a pen. As such, people should not depend on them. But that gets too far off topic, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Trust me...people who get married EARN their different "rights" too!


    Roger that. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold2 View Post
    Just like a man and a woman have a need/desire to marry so do gay couples.
    I don't have a need or a desire to get married. It's soooooo much easier to "shack up" long term, LOL

    I think it's funny how many straight couples are desperately trying to get OUT of a marriage, yet gay couples want to get INTO one.

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    FWIW, I too am glad that Vermont did what it did. What's better is that is was the result of legislative action, as it should be. The other states that did it, did so as the result of judicial action, which IMO is VERY wrong and scary.

    Judges do not make law.
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    Blue, I take it that you just recently did your taxes?
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    Good! I think all states should legalize it. I certainly do not agree with that lifestyle, but who are we to say they shouldn't have the right to choose a partner and live their lives together as a couple, and have the rights and benefits of a straight married couple? As long as they don't try to push their beliefs and lifestyle on others - who cares????
    I personally know 2 same sex couples (not married) who have adopted children, and you couldn't ask for a better set of parents for the children. Some straight parents with kids could take some lessons from them!!!
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