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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    The smoking or housing complex rules is just an example of rules and rights bumping up against each other.

    One person's heartfelt "right" - bumps up against someone else's heartfelt "rule" all the time. It is human nature.
    Fail again. If a place of residence or business has a "rule" against smoking, a smoker has no "right" to smoke there.

    I have no right to smoke in your residence and you have no right to object if I smoke in mine.

    Maybe you know Kalifornia better as Mexifornia?
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    Because his education policies delve deep into things other than education. He sees himself as an arbeiter of what is right "for the children." His job is to provide an education for our kids, not to impose HIS world view.
    Source, please.
    But if you Google him, you will get the current administrations take on him, which of course is glowing.
    I didn’t. I got my information from George Will, the Pulitzer Prize-winning conservative American newspaper columnist, journalist, and author.

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    "I don't want the Government in MY HOUSE.....But I do want them to tell big business how to run itself.

    Please,

    All the whiners in this country!

    A local power company wanted to run high tension wires thru a community.
    The AH neighbors banded together and stopped the project.
    Oh, it blocks our view, it's dangerous, electro magnetic fields.....Offer them a break in their rates for letting the lines be built and see how many of the cheap SOBs will green light the project.

    All the ciggie taxes are just that, taxes.
    They flow thru the bureacracy to pay for more jack holes to pass laws that cause more problems...


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    Im not the only one who uses the term "jack hole"!!!
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    Collin, seriously Im sorry it has come to this. I dont expect the bad habits of others to fund my healthcare or any other expenses.

    But relying on government money only makes you a slave and a slave master.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Collin, seriously Im sorry it has come to this. I dont expect the bad habits of others to fund my healthcare or any other expenses.

    But relying on government money only makes you a slave and a slave master.


    May I assume you will never accept Medicare or Social Security ???
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    I don't have much to add....

    I smoked briefly as a teenager... VERY briefly but I've never really been a smoker.

    but my parents were both smokers for years and if I recall correctly they usually paid about $5 a pack. After a while they hiked up the cost of a pack... now it's $10 a pack :O

    My dad has been smoke free for 4 years I think and he has saved SOOOOOOO much money. And he smoked from the time he was about 12 and now he's 62. So if he can quit after all that time... anyone can.




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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    May I assume you will never accept Medicare or Social Security ???
    Or unemployment. Or food stamps. Or workers' comp. Or veterans benefits.

    We can certainly tell he did not take advantage of public education.

    He does not even know the correct names of the states!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    Source, please.

    I didn’t. I got my information from George Will, the Pulitzer Prize-winning conservative American newspaper columnist, journalist, and author.
    Its not something you come to from just ONE source. It's a opinion developed after looking a a lot of stuff on this guy. I will get back to you one this, but I am having a crazy busy day. LOL

    Actually, it goes in directions that are not part of this thread... So maybe I will post a fresh one. Because it will most likely end up with another "gun control/mind control" debate. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Its not something you come to from just ONE source. It's a opinion developed after looking a a lot of stuff on this guy. I will get back to you one this, but I am having a crazy busy day. LOL

    No need to get back with me - if you had indicated it was your opinion, I would not have responded further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace View Post
    No need to get back with me - if you had indicated it was your opinion, I would not have responded further.
    Well, I want to respond further. Because you asking for a source of that opinion is a little worrisome. I mean, a guy like him would NEVER just come out and say those things. You have to do a in depth study of the MAN. Almost like doing a biography.

    The historical method is a wonderful thing, it just takes time. You can see the future if you study the past.

    More to come, probably. I just need to find some time. Also, no need to reply to it, just a FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Well, I want to respond further. Because you asking for a source of that opinion is a little worrisome. I mean, a guy like him would NEVER just come out and say those things. You have to do a in depth study of the MAN. Almost like doing a biography.

    I thought you already had done this. That's what you based your opinions
    of the man on, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    I thought you already had done this. That's what you based your opinions
    of the man on, right?
    Good point... It would be a lot of effort to show what I am talking about and the target audience would not read it all anyway.

    Thanks!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Maybe you know Kalifornia better as Mexifornia?
    Aren't you the clever little racist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Aren't you the clever little racist!
    Clever? I have my moments, if I where realy clever I would have writen the book and be a best selling author.

    Racist? Hardly, unless Kalifornians are now a race of their own, but thanks for the insult.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    May I assume you will never accept Medicare or Social Security ???
    I dont expect either to be around in the near future, so Im planning ahead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Or unemployment. Or food stamps. Or workers' comp. Or veterans benefits.

    We can certainly tell he did not take advantage of public education.

    He does not even know the correct names of the states!
    I currently qualify for Food Stamps and no I am not participating, families with kids have a far greater need for the funds then I do.

    Ive paid more into unemployment, and workmans comp then I have recieved back by a longshot, and they are not the same as government handouts.

    To equate Veterans Benifits as a handout is an insult to every man and woman who has served the United States of America who earned those benifits by serving.

    I graduated public school with honors, so again thanks for the insult.

    For someone who likes to make fun of and insult others you realy dont understand sarcasm in the least.
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