Politics and religion.

**RICHARD** · 02-26-2009, 02:05 PM

I had to laugh at the "I never had a helicopter before" statement..

He didn't see the need to stop the order for a cheaper one?

It costs us just as much as AF1...

What a marroon!

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Are the EARMARKS everyone is talking about smudges he leaves on the doorjambs?

**blue** · 02-27-2009, 07:29 PM

A little quick history...

Originally Posted by Walter E Williams

While Americans, through ignorance or purpose, show contempt for our Constitution, I doubt whether they are indifferent between a growing or stagnating economy. Dr. Higgs tells us some of the economic history of the U.S. In 1893, there was a depression; we got out of it without a stimulus package. There was a major recession of 1920-21; though sharp, it quickly reversed itself into what has been call the "Roaring Twenties." In 1929, there was an economic downturn, most notably featured by the stock market collapse, after which came massive government intervention -- you might call it the nation's first stimulus package. President Hoover and Congress responded to what might have been a two- or three-year sharp downturn with many of the policies President Obama and Congress are urging today. They raised tariffs, propped up wage rates, bailed out farmers, banks and other businesses, and financed state relief efforts. When Roosevelt came to office, he became even more interventionist than Hoover and presided over protracted depression where the economy didn't fully recover until 1946.

Full text here.

Article by DR Robert Higgs is here.

**Puckstop31** · 02-27-2009, 08:04 PM

.... He is declaring war on investors, entrepreneurs, small businesses, large corporations, and private-equity and venture-capital funds.

That is the meaning of his anti-growth tax-hike proposals, which make absolutely no sense at all — either for this recession or from the standpoint of expanding our economy’s long-run potential to grow.

Raising the marginal tax rate on successful earners, capital, dividends, and all the private funds is a function of Obama’s left-wing social vision, and a repudiation of his economic-recovery statements. Ditto for his sweeping government-planning-and-spending program, which will wind up raising federal outlays as a share of GDP to at least 30 percent, if not more, over the next 10 years......

There is a growing sense of buyer’s remorse.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/29434104

Buyers remorse? Gee, who woulda thunk it? A guy with almost NO real leadership experience.... But gives on hell of a speech. Sounds like, dare I say it? Adolf Hitler?

Change we can believe in!!!! We will all be equally miserable!!! WOO HOO!

(Except our dear leader, he will NEVER feel the pain.....)

**blue** · 02-27-2009, 08:29 PM

**Puckstop31** · 02-28-2009, 07:27 AM

A little lighter now.... I thought this oddly appropriate.

http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-02-28/

Replace "Law" with "Constitution"

**blue** · 02-28-2009, 09:24 PM

Apperently the Germans feel Obama is the Second Coming...

**RICHARD** · 03-01-2009, 02:58 PM

I guess I have to eat some crow.

Not even two months into the new president's term and I do see the difference in the country.

I had lunch with my sibs at a mall and I noticed a machine next to the carousel that said CHANGE on the front of it. When I paid the bill, I handed the folder with my money inside to our server and he came back later and told me he would be back with my CHANGE. I did ask him if BO was in the mall, he said, 'NO!' That made me believe that we can have change with him in office.

God bless America and the new president.

**momoffuzzyfaces** · 03-02-2009, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Puckstop31

http://www.cnbc.com/id/29434104

Buyers remorse? Gee, who woulda thunk it? A guy with almost NO real leadership experience.... But gives on hell of a speech. Sounds like, dare I say it? Adolf Hitler?

Change we can believe in!!!! We will all be equally miserable!!! WOO HOO!

(Except our dear leader, he will NEVER feel the pain.....)

Yea, he should just stop trying to clean up the messes of the past Presidents and let our county finish going to hell in a hand basket.

Let all the banks fail, and the stock market too and all the businesses. Who needs em? When we are all poverty stricken we can then start all over from the ground up. At least we will all be equal then.

**Puckstop31** · 03-02-2009, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces

Yea, he should just stop trying to clean up the messes of the past Presidents and let our county finish going to hell in a hand basket.

Let all the banks fail, and the stock market too and all the businesses. Who needs em? When we are all poverty stricken we can then start all over from the ground up. At least we will all be equal then.

Tell me how spending money we don't have and raising taxes on the people who make jobs is going to help?

Better yet, learn about the depression of 1920-21. See how we got out of that, FAST. Then see what happened in 1933. See how LONG it took to get out of that one.

There is a lot of culpability to go around, but the lions share of it rests with arrogant and corrupt government..... From both parties. It gets worse with a over educated, under wise, wanna be communist dictator in the White House.

People who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.

**momoffuzzyfaces** · 03-02-2009, 04:09 PM

The government is who created this mess. That's why it needs to change before the mess can be cleaned up. Do you really think that if any other person had been elected, things would have been better? If so, I have a bridge I'll sell you in never never land.

By the way, it was the GOVERNMENT who got us out of the depression by putting people back to work doing work for the states building roads and things. I do know my history. My family lived through it!

And who are they going to raise taxes on, people who have no many now?

**Puckstop31** · 03-02-2009, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces

The government is who created this mess. That's why it needs to change before the mess can be cleaned up.

So 2 wrongs do make a right?

Do you really think that if any other person had been elected, things would have been better? If so, I have a bridge I'll sell you in never never land.

Either of the two main options we were given would have gotten us to this point.

Thats why I voted for Bob Barr.

By the way, it was the GOVERNMENT who got us out of the depression by putting people back to work doing work for the states building roads and things. I do know my history. My family lived through it!

Umm, no. WW2 got us out of the depression. All the first new deal did was make busy work, but it did ZERO to contribute to the long term health of the economy.

Free economies are cyclical, they ebb and flow. The best thing to do is let it ebb and flow. But career politicans can't let that happen. Not when people can't afford their cigarettes or big screen TVs any more. Not when the people who suck on the government tit keep voting for more and more of MY money.

You know your history? Read Cicero. Read the Federalist Papers. Don't regurgitate the BS that is contained in public school textbooks. (Remember, their content is regulated by the feds.... In direct conflict with the 10th Amendment...)

And who are they going to raise taxes on, people who have no many now?

No, they are going to tax my business. The US already has the 2nd highest corporate tax rate on Earth. You would not belive the things that are done to hide income. All that is needed is to let us keep OUR money. I'd love to hire 2-3 new techs... But I am holding off, because if Dear Leader raises my taxes, I can't afford to and stay in business.

This is what we get when public schools feed the PC version of history to our kids and we elect a man who has never lead a business , telling business how to run.