Ms. Pelosi, Meet A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H!

[Karen]

Please get this thread out of the realm of personal attacks. Belittling others is not necessary, and not part of the spirit of Pet Talk. I think we all know how certain of you feel about each other, and don't need to see it reiterated again and again. It is not helpful, conducive to dialogue, or good for the community.

I do agree that "Octomom" - who should be referred to as Tetradecamom, as she now has 14 children - is not stable or sane, and that her physician, if he had knowledge of her mental state, should be investigated and disciplined.

I hope all her children get enough love and support and care from the extended community, and their health and well-being are not further compromised by Ms. Suleman's mental issues. They will all be in my prayers. They did not ask to be born, after all.

[DJFyrewolf36]

Please get this thread out of the realm of personal attacks. Belittling others is not necessary, and not part of the spirit of Pet Talk. I think we all know how certain of you feel about each other, and don't need to see it reiterated again and again. It is not helpful, conducive to dialogue, or good for the community.

I do agree that "Octomom" - who should be referred to as Tetradecamom, as she now has 14 children - is not stable or sane, and that her physician, if he had knowledge of her mental state, should be investigated and disciplined.

I hope all her children get enough love and support and care from the extended community, and their health and well-being are not further compromised by Ms. Suleman's mental issues. They will all be in my prayers. They did not ask to be born, after all.

I agree completely. I see both sides of this argument and see good points in both. However I think people can agree to disagree

[RICHARD]

Please get this thread out of the realm of personal attacks.

I do agree that "Octomom" - who should be referred to as Tetradecamom, as she now has 14 children - is not stable or sane, and that her physician, if he had knowledge of her mental state, should be investigated and disciplined.

I don't take things personally.


LOL, I was a total loss at anything "math"- I appreciate your correcting me by naming the proper term!

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I do not have any children, Fortunately, I realized that I my desires to have a whole shiat load of kiddies would fit into my ethnic and religious upbringing, But, LO! God blesseth me with common sense, the realization that I am a better person when I can give kids back to their parents and thought that the
planet I grew up in is not the same planet they would be left with.

Plus, If I cannot behave on this website, what would my offspring be like?


Also, I didn't want them to hang around with ninnies who run the country, always have the "right" opinion and will not take responsibility for screwing up my earth.

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Blue,

Richardina? I'll call my next goldfish that in your honor.

I think that some people are obsessed with stupidity (Me) and are on some kind of stalking trip!

[pomtzu]

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I do not have any children,

I didn't think so. No one that has/had children would ever agree with your thoughts on "replacements". Again - IMO

[Edwina's Secretary]

I didn't think so. No one that has/had children would ever agree with your thoughts on "replacements". Again - IMO

Potmtzu...I would expand on that...I don't think anyone who has ever loved a child would ever agree with those thoughts on "replacements."

[DJFyrewolf36]

I've had kids and I know there are some people whou would think of children as "replacements".

Its a sad fact that for any obsurd notion there is SOMEONE on this planet that proves it to be true. Its just the way this world works

[Edwina's Secretary]

I've had kids and I know there are some people whou would think of children as "replacements".

Its a sad fact that for any obsurd notion there is SOMEONE on this planet that proves it to be true. Its just the way this world works

I am so sorry you have known such people.

Perhaps we need to define "replacement."

I have told my husband if anything happens to me the best way he can honor my memory is to find someone to be with.

Not a replacement for me.

If being with me made his life richer and better, I would want him to have that experience again. Why should he be alone because I am gone? It does me no good.

And I know he has a big enough heart to have loved me and to love again.

If what has been described on here as "replacement children" were such...wouldn't that by extension mean every couple that has more than one child is "replacing?"

People can survive loss and love again...that doesn't mean they are replacing the lost one...just that they enjoyed loving so much they want to continue doing it.

Pomtzu says it so beautifully...

You can make room in your heart and in your life for another and different one, but you can never "replace" the one that is gone!!!

[cassiesmom]

I was waiting on a long checkout line at the supermarket today and the cover of one of the tabloids suggested something about this mother that gave me the shivers. It has a picture of her next to a picture of Angelina Jolie, and it said that she wants to look like Angelina Jolie (even had plastic surgery to achieve that goal) and to have a big family like her. (shiver) It seems to me a bad reason to have octuplets. I can't help but wonder if all of this publicity is only compounding the problem. If the press left her and the babies alone, might that be a reality check for her?

[DJFyrewolf36]

Again I find myself agreeing with you, ES. I would want my husband to move on with his life too if anything were to happen to me. However I at least was talking about people who have a child to literally replace a lost one, giving it the same name and not telling it about its sibling...never mentioning anything about what happened at all. It seems like something you'd see in books but Ive known someone that this happened to. Her parents never told her about what happened and it wasnt until she was an adult that she found some paperwork pointing her to the truth. People like that are truely disgusting IMO. Moving on is one thing, something like this is quite another.

Cassiesmom: I think that if she didn't get any special attention for her first six, she wouldn't have tried a stunt like this to get even more attention. Right now the best thing for this situation is for people to just ignore her but she has good publicists who have made this in to a money making circus act. Hopefully all this wont negitively impact the children but I have a feeling that it will.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Fyrewolf....that is a sad story. But there are people who abuse their children, nonetheless I am not prepared to assume everyone who has children abuses them. Likewise, I am not willing to assume because a couple loses their children in a tragic accident and decide to have more children they are engaged in some sick "child replacement" thing. (Especially since, as has been pointed out repeatedly, they did not go into the invitro to have three children...it happened - it was not planned.)

And I agree with you and Cassiesmom. This woman needs LESS publicity. I turn off the t.v. if she comes on and will not buy magazines with anything about her.

[RICHARD]

I didn't think so. No one that has/had children would ever agree with your thoughts on "replacements". Again - IMO

So, that discounts my opinion?

The woman had three kids thru AI, what do you think she was thinking at the time?

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Grace,

I thought at least one person needed 'stimulus' to get er done!

[pomtzu]

So, that discounts my opinion?

The woman had three kids thru AI, what do you think she was thinking at the time?

Everyone has an opinion - just as everyone has an...........well - I think you know how that one goes!

And I think she was thinking of having another child, since when multiples are implanted, they don't very often all take - if any at all!!! You can't "replace" a child with another - and I'll argue that one till my last breath! You can make room in your heart and in your life for another and different one, but you can never "replace" the one that is gone!!!