Westminster 2009

[Alysser]

The the Airedale was DQ'ed right? The judge from the terrier group knew him and worked with him previously and was disqualified due to conflict of interest. I didnt know anybody else was...

I loved the irish wolfhound. So beautiful.. so BIG!
I am so excited for sporting!!!

But he can't just DQ a dog for it's owner can he? I mean he can't just put DQ a dog for his personal conflicts with it's handler.

[scrain2329]

But he can't just DQ a dog for it's owner can he? I mean he can't just put DQ a dog for his personal conflicts with it's handler.

because he is the handler, he is showing the dog, he is responsible. He can DQ the dog because if he has a friendship with the handler, it will be unfair to the other dogs. If somebody else was showing it wouldn't matter, the dog wouldn't be out. They were saying that they knew the chances and went anyways, just being there was enough for them; to qualify. I can understand. They put the faith, money, and attention into one handler, to switch could make the dog nervous and ruin the chances anyways.

At my shows for horses, if there is any relation to a judge by friendship, family, or business matter you can not show under the judge and will be excused. Same ruling for dog shows it seems.
Makes sense I guess but a bummer for the owners!

[scrain2329]

http://www.doggeddogdom.com/news/?tag=disqualification
found this, which was interesting about the disqualified dogs

[Grace]

But he can't just DQ a dog for it's owner can he? I mean he can't just put DQ a dog for his personal conflicts with it's handler.

It was my impression that the judge of that group had worked with the handlers previously. There was more than one disqualified last night.

I figured it was known in advance that it would happen. Otherwise an owner could raise a stink that s/he wasn't notified about it.

[Giselle]

Shayna, I really liked the GSD and I watched the breed judging with scrutiny. The GSD didn't wobble for me. Granted, it was cow hocked when it free stacked, but due to its standard, even the most ideal GSD will have a slight cowhock upon freestacking. Whether that's right or wrong is pretty subjective, but I've definitely seen wobblers and that GSD wasn't a wobbler to me. At least, that's what I could pull from the breed judging video.

Also, in breed judging, I would argue that the winning GSD was one of the more confident ones. When the judge asked each individual GSD to approach him, the winner approached him and actually sidled up to him versus the second GSD (the darker one) who approached him with caution and wariness. So, maybe the group judging was a bad representative and maybe undeserved for the GSD. I will say that I thought the GSD's reach could improve, but it I'm very very glad that they chose a moderate dog for once.

[cassiesmom]

Can someone answer a question about the German shepherd for me? (Okay, two - is it properly called a German shepherd dog, or a German shepherd?) I don't know anything about dog anatomy, but it looked to me when viewed from the side that the dog's hips weren't level with his shoulders. Like his back legs were shorter than his front legs? Is that how the dog is supposed to look? I also thought it was cute when the Puli jumped up off the floor with all four feet and the audience laughed. I just like to see all the different breeds, especially the breeds represented by PT dogs! Little ones, big ones, fluffy ones, sleek ones, hunters and herders and everything else dogs do.

[Ginger's Mom]

Shayna, Devon, Irescue I think you may all be on the west coast, but they just showed the Toller a little while ago. His name is Tyson, and I was wondering what you ladies thought of him? I thought he was gorgeous (I really like the more solid Tollers, like him), but I don't really have the experience with the breed that you ladies do. So what did you think of him? Wah, I want one, lol.

[cali]

Tyson is a nice dog, I havent seen him move though, I cant see the online videos and I missed the Retrievers on TV. I used to like Maverick too till I saw him move, it was awful, completly ruined him for me lol.

Giselle, keep in mind that I could care less about show standards, when I look at dogs, I look at general soundness as compared to what the breed as a WORKING dog should be built. I dont know the show standards and I dont give a rats behind whats "correct" per a show standard. I was impressed by the picture, but seeing the dog attempt to move and stack ruined it completly. Ladybug actually has a physicial problem with her hind end, and that GSDs rear was clearly weaker then ladybugs.

[Giselle]

I didn't see a weak rear, per se. I saw a GSD rear, which, by the very nature of its build, will seem weaker than, say, a Weim's. I saw a slight cowhock, which is inevitable because of the angulation of the rear. Due to the very nature of the GSD standard, I don't think it's possible to have an extremely strong rear when in freestack, unless the rear angulations change:


Cassiesmom, yes, the GSD's rear is supposed to be extremely well angulated and held lower than the front via the slightly sloping back, which gives it that distinctive flying look.